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12-09-2005, 08:39 PM
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Re: Best Video Game 1988-1994 Round 3
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[ QUOTE ] FF6 losing (and by such a large margin) indicates to me that people simply haven't played it. There is no way that people who have played both games to end could even possibly have 20% that say SMB3. I think SMB3 is a top 10 game all time, but the ONLY thing it edges FF6 in is revolutionary stuff. FF6 had better plot, music, theme, etc. SMB3 was "revolutionary"....then again so was FF6. [/ QUOTE ] LOL. you are trying to compare plot.. as if the plot means a damn thing in Mario 3 / any platformer game? In that case, RPGs should sweep every match I guess. [/ QUOTE ] Length or complexity does not a good story or plot make. RPG's would definitely not have the lock on good stories. Just long and complex ones. 
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12-09-2005, 08:55 PM
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Re: Best Video Game 1988-1994 Round 3
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] FF6 losing (and by such a large margin) indicates to me that people simply haven't played it. There is no way that people who have played both games to end could even possibly have 20% that say SMB3. I think SMB3 is a top 10 game all time, but the ONLY thing it edges FF6 in is revolutionary stuff. FF6 had better plot, music, theme, etc. SMB3 was "revolutionary"....then again so was FF6. [/ QUOTE ] LOL. you are trying to compare plot.. as if the plot means a damn thing in Mario 3 / any platformer game? In that case, RPGs should sweep every match I guess. [/ QUOTE ] Length or complexity does not a good story or plot make. RPG's would definitely not have the lock on good stories. Just long and complex ones. [/ QUOTE ] Blarg is correct. I'll indicate this in future threads with a BIC. However, I think that the size of the story's vehicle can help good stories play out to their fullest, and thus be their best. I think it's easier for a great story to come to fruition in an 800 page book than in the confines of a 2 hour movie, and moreso in an 80 hour game.
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12-09-2005, 09:22 PM
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Re: Best Video Game 1988-1994 Round 3
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] FF6 losing (and by such a large margin) indicates to me that people simply haven't played it. There is no way that people who have played both games to end could even possibly have 20% that say SMB3. I think SMB3 is a top 10 game all time, but the ONLY thing it edges FF6 in is revolutionary stuff. FF6 had better plot, music, theme, etc. SMB3 was "revolutionary"....then again so was FF6. [/ QUOTE ] LOL. you are trying to compare plot.. as if the plot means a damn thing in Mario 3 / any platformer game? In that case, RPGs should sweep every match I guess. [/ QUOTE ] Length or complexity does not a good story or plot make. RPG's would definitely not have the lock on good stories. Just long and complex ones. [/ QUOTE ] Blarg is correct. I'll indicate this in future threads with a BIC. However, I think that the size of the story's vehicle can help good stories play out to their fullest, and thus be their best. I think it's easier for a great story to come to fruition in an 800 page book than in the confines of a 2 hour movie, and moreso in an 80 hour game. [/ QUOTE ] I immediately thought of how Stephen King drags out stories painfully to make whopping fat books absolutely stuffed with filler, and how clean and sweat an economical short story can be. And I then thought of all the people reviewing RTS's according to their story, calling them "revolutionary" because of this or that in the story or disappointing because of some other thing. I'm a huge fan of RTS's, but to me this is like rating pornos on the plot. Who the heck even cares? It's the gameplay that's the thing, and especially against other people. I think what makes most games good is a good interface, good game mechanics, and a world that is good for what you can do in it on your own, without being guided. I've loved many games that have been criticized for their plots, which either most people or nobody really cared about at all - DOOM, Descent, Everquest, Total Annihilation, etc. To me, plot is okay in a game, but it's mostly a passive aspect of the entertainment, what you'd get and enjoy while watching a show. When playing in a world, you make your own plot, and the plot at any rate is almost always of almost no consequence. You're there for the nailbiting decisions and action and pride and fun of doing something in the game really well. Plot? Meh. In the rare game like Half-Life, it can matter, but mostly I'm too busy playing to care about a plot. I'd guess something like 1% of Everquest players knew more than a fraction of the plot, and it was by far the most successful RPG of all time for years on end. I think plot has more than trivial significance for the average player in just a small(though sometimes high selling) segment of the gaming market, say in adventure games like Myst. Which probably 100 times more people bought or were given than actually played it much.
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12-09-2005, 11:48 AM
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Re: Best Video Game 1988-1994 Round 3
You guys need to come to grips with the fact that not everyone in the world is obsessed with RPGs
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12-09-2005, 11:50 AM
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Re: Best Video Game 1988-1994 Round 3
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You guys need to come to grips with the fact that not everyone in the world is obsessed with RPGs [/ QUOTE ] I did, thats why I said that accuracy would have been enhanced by splitting into multi and single players. however, I think durron did a good job, and anyone who doesnt think so should look at the popularity of the threads. also, I dont feel like SUCH a geek anymore.
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12-09-2005, 04:22 PM
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Re: Best Video Game 1988-1994 Round 3
I hope Zelda wins this whole thing. IMO the greatest game ever.
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12-09-2005, 05:19 PM
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SMB 3 VS FF6
FF6 and FF7 are my two favorite video games of all time, with nothing being close. At the same time, I am not dissapointed to see FF6 losing to SMB 3.
It seems like a lot of the RPG fans aren't giving that game enough credit. Let's face it, every single person on the planet has played that game, most to completetion, and there's a reason for it. The gameplay is simply amazing. The secrets in that game (the warp whistles namely) have become common knowledge even to people that odn't play video games. The replayability in that game is amazing. It has been almost 16 years since that game was released, but I still enjoy playing it today. IMO, no other Mario game can ever compare to SMB 3 in terms of influence, success or even gameplay.
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12-09-2005, 05:23 PM
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Re: SMB 3 VS FF6
ZeeJustin:
I don't know man, in terms of gameplay I'd give the nod to Super Mario World. The level progress and all the secret stuff in this one beats out even SMB3. But it was for a much more advanced game system so I definitely see where you're coming from. In terms of RPGs how can FF7 not be the one choice in this. That freakin' game is incredible to play now, eight years later. Swede
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12-09-2005, 05:29 PM
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Re: SMB 3 VS FF6
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[ QUOTE ] In terms of RPGs how can FF7 not be the one choice in this. [/ QUOTE ] That question is REALLY easy. It wasn't made before 1995 =) P.S. my avatar rocks. [/ QUOTE ] yep, the only time I almost cried at a video game. I was 13, and in my 2d sprite world that primitive model was teh hotness.
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