Preflop, flop, turn, heck the whole thing up for debate...

[baronzeus]

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You do realize someone can state an opinion about how one should play without having to make a declaritive statement, right?

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i dont think you can fold to a river check-raise because a moron will play any 9 like this

[tolbiny]

ive got around 50k hands at 10-20, and i have a hunch that if i went back and looked at all the hands that i capped the turn and got checkraised on the river that i wouldn't find trips with a Q kicker winning more than 5% of those hands.

[baronzeus]

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ive got around 50k hands at 10-20, and i have a hunch that if i went back and looked at all the hands that i capped the turn and got checkraised on the river that i wouldn't find trips with a Q kicker winning more than 5% of those hands.

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possibly. It's close though, I think 5-6% is about the amount you win it but really i think you should just call the turn and river (changing my mind from before) and avoid all this mess. You are check-3bet so rarely with worse than trips that it's just not worth the mess that you have to deal with on the river,

[tolbiny]

I agree that capping the turn is a poor play here, it is less of a poor play if you are folding to the river check raise, but having to call and pay 2 bets on the river when behind is just ridiculous.

Edit: also the pot is 14 or 15 BBs- 5-6% isn't enough here (from a strict odds view)

[wheelz]

yep i retract my turn opinion (which was just quoting you) as well. i thought the SB bet-3-bet, i didn't realize UTG was the 3-bettor.

i really should read hands more closely before i comment.

[baronzeus]

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i really should read hands more closely before i comment.

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me too

[oreogod]

Postin "naked" -- I only read to your turn action.

Preflop...bad limpers, I call. Ppl are right to mention how aggressive the blinds are as that is a del facto factor. QTo I raise...its loose but I was almost debating a raise here w/ Q9o (pretty low huh? But I limbo w/ the best of them and I [censored] other ppls [censored] up preflop...in a good way. As a note, I play a lot of 2-4 handed).

Flop...call. Schwing.

Turn...UTG 3bet, man thats ugly. Call. Without doing any math and going by a quick-onthefly-and-by-feel combo run in my brain I dont think u are beating 55 percent of the ranges here. Call. Dont spew...for the love of god....dont spew. You have a pretty hand, but theres a few other pretty sluts out there that can kick the [censored] out of your good looking bar whore.