Fold the flop here?

[Kirg]

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It's only got 16% equity against the likely range if you stay in until the river, Tilts. There are many times you won't be able to call the flop for your backdoor straight or flush or two pair or trips or whatever which is why your equity numbers are deceiving. Fold preflop.

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First thing I thought when I read this thread was "I see TiltsMcFabulous made a new account"

<ul type="square">[*]Playing bad cards from the BB for a raise / Check [*]Arguing with anyone who says he should have folded / Check[*]Insulting the better 2+2 posters / Check [/list]

[baronzeus]

Please tell me that he's seriously banned.

[Kirg]

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(perhaps you need to think a bit more about why the odds of a favourable flop don't have to be huge to make the flop call correct here...)

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Phoenix, AZ



Hmmm....

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Yep, it's Tilts

[baronzeus]

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(perhaps you need to think a bit more about why the odds of a favourable flop don't have to be huge to make the flop call correct here...)

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Phoenix, AZ



Hmmm....

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Yep, it's Tilts

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The funny thing about the Phoenix Arizona thing is that he changed it immediately AFTER I accused him of being the Matador in another thread. Bahahahah. You can find it easily in the "What did I do right and wrong in this hand?" Thread or whatever.

[pistol78]

Fold Preflop

7.5:1 is not nearly good enough to justify playing this hand. Make the odds 11:1 or something and you might have some room for debate.

Nates post and quiz reflect conditions from a LATE POSITION STEAL RAISE. That is not the case here.

Q9 is dominated more then you think.

With this logic should we be calling with any 2?

If not, then what are the minimum hands that we should be playing?

I appreciate the effort of an instructional post, but I do not think that calling here is profitable.

P.S Given Mp3's stats he can easily be on a draw type hand rather then a Set/2pair. 98 for example 45 XXs, and I dont think folding the flop is this easy. NOt saying that its not correct, but saying that I dont think its that easy, escpecially considering the fact that we played Q9 in the first place.

But, then again, thats exactly why we dont play Q9.

[shant]

Adult: "Gosh Oscar, you are so mean. Isn't he mean kids?"

Kids: "Yeah Oscar! You're a GROUCH!"

Oscar: "BITCH I LIVE IN A F*CKIN TRASHCAN!"

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Adult: "Gosh Oscar, you are so mean. Isn't he mean kids?"

Kids: "Yeah Oscar! You're a GROUCH!"

Oscar: "BITCH I LIVE IN A F*CKIN TRASHCAN!"

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Way to sum up this thread. lol

[hicherbie]

lol...8/10