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Old 05-30-2005, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Greenstein - Good Article.

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callmeishmale does have a good point but in tournaments when you get to the final couple of tables you can't tell me those players aren't good.

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You highly underestimate the short-term variance required in multi-table tournaments.

If you keep posting in 2+2 and get involved in strategy posts and the whatnot, a year from now you'll look at your posts in this thread and realize how ridiculous you sound.

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michiganfan9,


Take this man's great advice. Stop making a fool of yourself.


FWIW, it sounds like you'll be a valuable addition to the "WPT, etc" and the "News, Views, Gossip" forums.


Adam

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FWIW, IMHO NVG is WPT without the idiots.
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Old 05-30-2005, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: Greenstein - Good Article.

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He was at the final table of the first televised WSOP event last year. The NL Hold 'em event that the British Backgammon player won. He ran into quads against that snaggle tooth dude.

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No, that was David Chiu. Chau Giang won the PLO event at the WSOP.

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yeaaaaa, you're right

switch that...reverse it.
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Old 05-30-2005, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: Greenstein - Good Article.

you must be his agent? or did you buy his hockey jersey?
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: Greenstein - Good Article.

Don't get me wrong I agree that the better players play in some of those cash games but I disagree with Greenstein's elite 5 players. I believe that playing a tournament is much harder than a cash game though.
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:29 PM
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: Greenstein - Good Article.

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Don't get me wrong I agree that the better players play in some of those cash games but I disagree with Greenstein's elite 5 players. I believe that playing a tournament is much harder than a cash game though.

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Define harder? Harder to find? Harder to win? Harder to make a living in?

Cash games are not hard if you play against worse players, But they do gauge skill much better.
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: Greenstein - Good Article.

If you think cash games are hard, you're either:
A) no good
B) Have horrible game selection.
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: Greenstein - Good Article.

okay, so who are your elite 5?
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: Greenstein - Good Article.

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okay, so who are your elite 5?

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This kid is 15. Leave him to his delusions.
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: Greenstein - Good Article.

You're mistaken.

Yes, there may be more 'pressure' in a tournament. But someone who makes bad decisions in a tournament can still easily win one, whereas someone who consistently makes bad decisions in a cash game will go broke. It's that simple. That's what Greenstein is talking about: some schmuck wins a big $10K tournament and he's a 'great player', but put him in the cash games that Greenstein plays in, and he's a fish.
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