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Old 04-25-2005, 07:59 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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You clearly state here that calling $33 w/ 87o is +EV with $150 stacks, using your twodimes numbers as justification. There is just no way to dispute how horrible and backwards your reasoning and advice is.


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I will openly admit that this statement was too simple to be true. However, I believe that my other statements (re: hero calling with a non-dominated hand, stack sizes relative to blinds, etc.) were sound and reasonable enough to justify my position.

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Why dont you establish once and for all that bring twodimes into the equation was not 'too simple' but 100% completely idiotically false.
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Old 04-25-2005, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: Nut Straight on Turn

QcXc (probably QcTc)
i fold
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Old 04-25-2005, 08:50 AM
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When looking at this from a risk v. reward perspective, the downside heavily outweighs the upside. You don't need numbers to figure that out, just common sense.

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hahahahahahahahahahaha

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I know everyone hates Richie, but i agree with his comment.
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Old 04-25-2005, 08:58 AM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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When looking at this from a risk v. reward perspective, the downside heavily outweighs the upside. You don't need numbers to figure that out, just common sense.

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hahahahahahahahahahaha

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I know everyone hates Richie, but i agree with his comment.

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you also advocate not using numbers while doing math?
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:14 AM
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Default Re: Nut Straight on Turn

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just a math problem

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Off the top of my head, I'd guess he only needs to be freerolling about 25% of the time for this to be a fold. I'll let someone else work out the real number.

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elaborate please. I know you didn't do the math but how did you estimate?

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he guessed based on previous experience and poker knowledge
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: Nut Straight on Turn

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Yeah, i think always pushing here with Q of clubs is interesting.

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why can't this ever be someone making a "brilliant" move with KT[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?

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because the reason the freeroll is such a good idea is that no one folds the nuts here, so on that thought if you push with 2pair + flush draw you would only lay down a set but the straight would still make the routine/tough call.

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if the person is smart enough to get through that, then he must know what his move looks like to a winning player with which he's played many hands...

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What if the winning player that recognizes the second player could have QX [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] actually has the Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] himself? anyway, i guess you're right that it could be some guy making this "brilliant" move on you, but... well... it probably isn't.

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if by interesting you mean clearly correct, then you are right
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Old 04-25-2005, 09:28 PM
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my preferred cup is not an ass hole.
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