Party Poker's Long Term Health - Page 7

Shoe · #61 01-31-2005, 07:24 PM

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Dear Dilutional People,

Another thread on this site talks about Annie Duke getting her own Sit-Com. Read my comments above about fads ending when they get accepted by the mainstream. Remember Day-Trading? Would anyone like to buy a CB radio?

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This isn't a bubble that is just going to burst. The reason there aren't as many day-traders anymore is because the bubble bursted. I agree, that poker on TV is reaching its peak and will need to be on the decline soon, however, all the new players that have entered the game, are going to keep playing for years to come (most for the rest of their lives).

I think ESPN's WSOP coverage and the WPT coverage will remain the most popular, and all the other poker shows out there are going to struggle to become one of the few remaining survivors.

The game now has millions of new casual players, that are going to play atleast a few times a year, every year.

imported_stealthcow · #62 01-31-2005, 07:25 PM

a rake free site would help a boatload in curbing this

stealthcow-

CORed · #63 01-31-2005, 07:53 PM

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the software development must have been virtually free.

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If not, they were overcharged.

CORed · #64 01-31-2005, 08:01 PM

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In B&M poker, self deception is so much easier.

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Hence, all of the "I'm a winning poker player in live games, but I can't win online. Online poker is rigged." posts

4thstreetpete · #65 01-31-2005, 10:47 PM

Party has over 72K players right now playing, that's the most I've ever seen. This is crazy!
It's a safe bet that this year's WSOP will be the biggest one yet again and will bring in new players to the game so it's really hard to see this little 'fad' slowing down anytime soon.

I for one am pretty optimistic about the future of poker (both B&M and online). It's pretty scary to see how mainstream it is nowadays. I was at my local book store the other day and saw some kid no older than 12 ask his mom to buy him phil helmuth's playing poker like the pro's. There's a whole new generation of players coming of age and will be entering the poker world soon when they have the money. Don't be surprised if the other person that you're playing with online is some 13 yr old kid with his daddy's credit card.

The only thing I do worry about are government regulations. This is the only threat to the continuing growth of online poker (and gambling). Everytime I hear someone say this is the year when poker peaks, it only gets bigger and better.

Sephus · #66 02-01-2005, 11:33 AM

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Sephus,

Nice catch. I give you mad propers for this. But I don't think my statements are contradictory.

-Michael

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no, not really contradictory, but you could have said "barry sanders is wrong" simply by voting, so by actually making a post you're indicating you have some argument to make (or evidence to show), then the only thing you say is about the forum's youth, so you're sort of implying that your opinion should be given extra weight simply because you're (presumably) less youthful.

(by the way, i usually don't go out of my way to nitpick with random (to me anyway) posters, but i'm a big barry sanders fan...)

crockett · #67 02-01-2005, 12:46 PM

Wow! I had no idea. I just read this entire thread and I can not get over the number of people who think Poker will not be just another fad. Before the boom I could count on one hand the number of players that I knew that played online, in a B&M or the regular home game. Currently, I would guess 80% of the employees (450+) where I work are doing one of those three. In five years do you really think these people will still be dropping $50-$150 dollars in Party to see it evaporate to nothing over time and then redeposit! Hell no, in fact I've already talked to some who are done with it. They are either honest about it or tell me the sites are rigged. They say "If I want to gamble, I'll take the wife to the local Casino now and then."

Stop with the stupid lottery and Casino comparisons. If you find a Poker game where I can wager a $1 every pot to win a million or mult-millions, let me know. If you find a Casino that runs a Blackjack table where I get to win your money if you play more poorly than I do, let me know. Don't you realize that people go to Casino's knowing they are going to lose. They know the game is fixed against them. People go to Casino's for "other" reasons wether or not they'll admit it. People play Poker to win. Are you still doing anything that you consistantly lose at, yet is beatable? I bet not. Your just comparing apples to oranges.

It simply amazes me that someone doesn't realize this has about a 95%+ chance of just being another fad.

The only boom that I can think of off the top of my head that has held would be golf.

The list of "fads" that have come and gone is endless.

Sure Poker will always be here but in five years I think this thread would be really interesting to read.

Patrick del Poker Grande · #68 02-01-2005, 01:55 PM

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Are you still doing anything that you consistantly lose at, yet is beatable?

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Well, not that I disagree with your post, but the last few hockey teams I've been on have sucked pretty bad.

BradleyT · #69 02-01-2005, 02:11 PM

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Wow! I had no idea. I just read this entire thread and I can not get over the number of people who think Poker will not be just another fad. Before the boom I could count on one hand the number of players that I knew that played online, in a B&M or the regular home game. Currently, I would guess 80% of the employees (450+) where I work are doing one of those three. In five years do you really think these people will still be dropping $50-$150 dollars in Party to see it evaporate to nothing over time and then redeposit! Hell no, in fact I've already talked to some who are done with it. They are either honest about it or tell me the sites are rigged. They say "If I want to gamble, I'll take the wife to the local Casino now and then."

Stop with the stupid lottery and Casino comparisons. If you find a Poker game where I can wager a $1 every pot to win a million or mult-millions, let me know. If you find a Casino that runs a Blackjack table where I get to win your money if you play more poorly than I do, let me know. Don't you realize that people go to Casino's knowing they are going to lose. They know the game is fixed against them. People go to Casino's for "other" reasons wether or not they'll admit it. People play Poker to win. Are you still doing anything that you consistantly lose at, yet is beatable? I bet not. Your just comparing apples to oranges.

It simply amazes me that someone doesn't realize this has about a 95%+ chance of just being another fad.

The only boom that I can think of off the top of my head that has held would be golf.

The list of "fads" that have come and gone is endless.

Sure Poker will always be here but in five years I think this thread would be really interesting to read.

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You can't possibly think the number of users will ever go down from this point forward.

crockett · #70 02-01-2005, 03:17 PM

You bring up a perfect example that reinforces what I'm saying.

When I was younger I played Pee Wee travel hockey for same team that had spawned one the players on the 1980 Olympic team. I was a decent player, not great or anything and no aspirations of ever doing anything but just playing hockey but I still loved the game. We lost every single game that season. The following season we lost every single game. The following year I refused to play. My dad was furious but I just wouldn't play. I hated losing. Looking back I wish I would have never made that decision. My brother (3 years younger) went on to play through Pee Wee, through high school and still plays in Men's league now. He gets a lot out of it. I've never played since.

If people just keep losing, my guess is they won't come back.