Moral Dillema on PartyPoker

[pokerraja]

Enon,
Myself, coming from a pool background, i go to bars and try to hustle money from drunk macho men who are trying to impress their girls, or pool newbies who think they got game. key word is hustle. this is how i make my money. is this wrong? no. these guys agreed to the rules of the game, and i just try to adjust my game to make it look like i got lucky. bottom line, is im trying to make money. with-in our pool players community, we trade our hustling stories and we actually are proud of each others hustles, and pat each other on the back for these accomplisments.

With that being said, I cant believe some here are actually ridiculing you for "hustling" money. I mean are poker players all of a sudden in a christian brotherhood? lets not forget, that we poker players are no different than pool players, we are trying to hustle money from the weak. This is our main objective. This is why we read books, forums, etc... I say good job enon, and damn,I wish it was me!

[bernie]

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I mean are poker players all of a sudden in a christian brotherhood?

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Confessor: Forgive me father, for i have sinned. I bluffed a very needy person off a 25 big bet pot on the turn in a hold em game. I know i should've just folded and done the right thing since he was bemoaning about being unable to hit the ATM until after midnight. He was lamenting that he would be broke until then.

Father: Nice play! <whispers: Can you fit into an altar boy robe?>

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[Turning Stone Pro]

You fellas know I am a mentally disturbed person. You dont think I can create a story online similar to the one in Enon's post?

If you can win money, do it. PP has gotten significantly tougher as of late, IMO. If someone is asking you to take their money, take it.

For instance, do I feel guilty for taking money in shorthanded situations from second rate 2+2ers? Not in the least. I just take the cash, hope they learned something, and move on.

TSP

[EarlCat]

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call Partys' support line and find a way to get the dough back to him

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Give that wino on the corner a bottle of jack while you're at it.

[Senor Choppy]

Who you take money from when playing online doesn't change the morality of the activity. You're playing 9 unknowns day after day, you can assume that some of these people are gambling money they can't afford to lose. Because one person speaks out as being one of these people shouldn't change anything. Whether what we do is moral or not is difficult to say, but if it was moral before this happened, it's still moral after the fact.

You didn't cause this person to lose everything, it would've happened regardless of whether or not you were around. If you want to do something good or moral, set aside some of the money you win and come up with a good charity, whether it be a large donation to breast cancer research or spending it on one specific human being, trying to change their life for the better.

It's difficult to tell whether giving the money back would even help this person in the first place. Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom, etc.

[ChicagoTroy]

Gambling sites are supposed to monitor for people with gambling problems, IIRC. You should have alerted management to the chat.

Reducing the guy's ability to gamble for "fun" for a few hours by challenging him to a heads up match that would likely last about a half hour was unconscionable.

You're wondering if doing this makes you immoral. Yes, it did. Fortunately, since this only involves money, it just takes money to undo. Give his money to a charity that works on reducing infant mortality, SIDS, or whatever.

For those who think this was OK, since any opponent could be a compulsive gambler, that is weak. A liquor store owner probably knows he might be selling booze to anonymous folks who might be an alcoholics, but he can't tell if they're shopping sober. That doesn't mean that people with no problem have no right to buy liquor. But when the homeless drunk guy comes in and looks for Old E, the owner's an [censored] if he sells it to him.

"Somebody was going to get this player's money, might as well be me." Somebody's going to make money selling crack, so you might as well do that, too. Assheads.

Enon, get rid of that money. You'll feel better.

[Chief911]

Buster,

Thanks for the perspective.

Nick

[mmcd]

Gambling sites are supposed to monitor for people with gambling problems

No.

Wives, relatives, and friends are supposed to monitor for gambling problems.

Gambling sites are supposed to make money.

People with gambling problems are supposed to lose money.

[J_V]

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Remember...what goes around in this world comes around.

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Somebody actually believes that?

[bernie]

If gambling sites had to monitor 'problem' gamblers, or even casinos for that matter, who are they to say what one player can afford to lose? Who are they to tell him he is playing wrong and shouldn't be allowed to play? There is no way to draw that line without opening a whole can of worms.

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A liquor store owner probably knows he might be selling booze to anonymous folks who might be an alcoholics, but he can't tell if they're shopping sober. That doesn't mean that people with no problem have no right to buy liquor.

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It also doesn't mean that people with a problem have no right to buy liquor. I believe their money spends just as well. Let's put the responsibility more on the alcoholic, not the seller. After all, it's his problem, not the worlds. The earth still spins whether he gets his drink or not.

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But when the homeless drunk guy comes in and looks for Old E, the owner's an [censored] if he sells it to him.


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The drunk might be working on a punchcard system to where he might be close to getting a free bottle if he buys one more. You can't deny him that after all that hard work.

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Somebody's going to make money selling crack, so you might as well do that, too.

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Well, that's illegal.

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For those who think this was OK, since any opponent could be a compulsive gambler, that is weak.

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How about kids who steal their parents credit cards and play? Thinking that the greater percentage of players you see really blowing chips online don't have some problem you're only fooling yourself. But based on that, im sure the many charities that you are funding have been happy with your numerous contributions. All zero of them.

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