Scammed by a 2+2er

[Ogre]

I got 3rd in a step 5 once, started at step 1 too [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[pokerdirty]

hey, anyone want to stake me?

[Jay36489]

My understanding of a staking agreement is that you get the original stake back and then a percentage of whatever has been made. If he lost some of it back to you expect to get paid on whatever his bankroll was at at the highest point?

[Matt R.]

I doubt the plan was to risk his entire stake by the stakee playing the step 5's with <10 buy-ins.

[reecelights]

This is why when Greg Raymer sold shares of himself they had a written agreement which prescribed the buy-in levels at which he was to play. Get it in writing folks.

http://www.fossilmanpoker.com/faqs.htm

See question number 3. Should be required reading for anyone considering staking/being staked, etc.

[BZ_Zorro]

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This seems like a pretty accurate acount of what happened IMO. ZebraAss you need to PM a screenshot of your account history so I can verify all the numbers. For all I know you might have had the roll up to 10k before you dropped it all by being an idiot playing the step 5s. In that case you would owe me A LOT more. I am no longer taking your word. You need proof to back it up.

And one more thing, I never threatened your life, and if I did, you deserved it and you know that. What you did is what douchebags do and now you are caught.

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You are going way too far claiming his bankroll at the highest point. Where is your risk in this agreement?

To zebra: The guy is being an idiot and deserves to lose his money. If you didn't have a written agreement, tell him to get screwed. Pay him back the original stake and not a cent more. Then see a lawyer and threaten him with defamation if he posts your name and address on a public forum. Take it to court if you need to, you have an excellent case. You can't defame someone like this in public. If he continues to harass you, get a restraining order.

The way he's acting, let him take you to small claims court if he wants his money, a judge won't allow more than a cent of the original stake, if that. Good luck to you.

[ChrisCo]

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This seems like a pretty accurate acount of what happened IMO. ZebraAss you need to PM a screenshot of your account history so I can verify all the numbers. For all I know you might have had the roll up to 10k before you dropped it all by being an idiot playing the step 5s. In that case you would owe me A LOT more. I am no longer taking your word. You need proof to back it up.

And one more thing, I never threatened your life, and if I did, you deserved it and you know that. What you did is what douchebags do and now you are caught.

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You are going way too far claiming his bankroll at the highest point. Where is your risk in this agreement?

To zebra: The guy is being an idiot and deserves to lose his money. If you didn't have a written agreement, tell him to get screwed. Pay him back the original stake and not a cent more. Then see a lawyer and threaten him with defamation if he posts your name and address on a public forum. Take it to court if you need to, you have an excellent case. You can't defame someone like this in public. If he continues to harass you, get a restraining order.

The way he's acting, let him take you to small claims court if he wants his money, a judge won't allow more than a cent of the original stake, if that. Good luck to you.

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Hah, good luck. I don't know why some people are think it is wrong to do this. We have both agreed that he owes me the 3500 in full because he broke the contract when he played step 5s.

The risk that I took was claiming the losses if he had any and the risk of not getting paid.

And no, I am not being an idiot. This is about the only solution when ZebraAss ignored me for about 10 days. After 5 mintues of this being posted on the net I got an answer from him. No way was I wrong and ZebraAss knows that.

And he will have fun getting any information on me because I have given him very little info about myself. And I have not released his information so I have done nothing illegal or commited slander. Every word I have spoken on here has been the truth. You are defending someone who has already given in.

[Matt R.]

Will you please stake me? I like your perceived "fair" arrangement -- I get to play with your money and only pay your original stake back. It's the same as playing with my own money, except I get 100% of the profits! Also, I assume you won't mind if I play a few step 5's with 3.5 buy-ins? I sure love to gamble.

[KingCon]

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This seems like a pretty accurate acount of what happened IMO. ZebraAss you need to PM a screenshot of your account history so I can verify all the numbers. For all I know you might have had the roll up to 10k before you dropped it all by being an idiot playing the step 5s. In that case you would owe me A LOT more. I am no longer taking your word. You need proof to back it up.

And one more thing, I never threatened your life, and if I did, you deserved it and you know that. What you did is what douchebags do and now you are caught.

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You are going way too far claiming his bankroll at the highest point. Where is your risk in this agreement?

To zebra: The guy is being an idiot and deserves to lose his money. If you didn't have a written agreement, tell him to get screwed. Pay him back the original stake and not a cent more. Then see a lawyer and threaten him with defamation if he posts your name and address on a public forum. Take it to court if you need to, you have an excellent case. You can't defame someone like this in public. If he continues to harass you, get a restraining order.

The way he's acting, let him take you to small claims court if he wants his money, a judge won't allow more than a cent of the original stake, if that. Good luck to you.

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I wonder if Zebra would pay his lawyer

[Bill Poker]

amazing, exactly the same as J_Lo's story [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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Last week of March, Transfer from ChrisCo of 750.00. Was down to 55 within a day. Played one 33 and one 22 - Back up to 1k within 4 hours.
Week 1 - No steady improvement of bankroll, roughly 800.00
Week 2 - Recieved 750 from ChrisCo - Still hanging around 1300-1400 mark
Week 3 - ChrisCo goes on vacation. I play 600 SNG's just over 10 days. All break even. (Small winning % but MTT's killed it)
Week 4 - Mad run of MTT's and SNG's - Up to 5300 - I offered to end the staking deal. He declined by saying he would take the % down to 35 or something like that...
Week 5 and 6 - My life was on tilt...I played just about 90 Step 5's on a 4k bankroll starting bankroll(2k from my portion of the staking and 2k deposited from my bank account)- I transfered 3k into other account so he would still have his money there. I busted my step 5 account with a 1st place % of 3.28.
Week 7 - 10 - Slowly losing at the 55's. Win a bit and try to keep the run going by playing 109's or 2 tabling the 215...back to where i started. I had vacation for 2 weeks in that time period too. During this week I also made a thread about reviewing HH's. I looked over about 300 SNG's of my own and others play.
Week 11 - 12- Chris asks for bankroll back, threatens my life, yada yada yada... I say I cant but I will try to get it to you. He threatens my life, yada yada yada. I say fine ill give you what i can. Over past week i am +1,500 at the 55's and down 1500 at the 109's. Why I keep playing like an idiot...is beyond me.
Week 13 - "Scammed by a 2+2er" Which IMO has been long delayed.

Why I was playing the step 5's...you know the answer and I admit it...

Why he didnt demand the
money when I was playing the step 5's...who knows, but who cares. All i want to do is get him he God Damn money.

Note: this was not edited so it has no factual value.

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