3/6 short now at Party nm - Page 7

lastcoyote · #61 06-28-2005, 07:54 PM

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This does really suck re: the guys who sit down with $83 from 1/2. They'll be getting poached at 3/6 now :/

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I think the amount of profit made from off of the ones that sit down with $75 - $100 cannot be underestimated and this is where the new 3/6 short tables are going to have the most impact on the 5/10 short game.

baronzeus · #62 06-28-2005, 07:55 PM

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Oh shit. Does that mean this isn't going to happen anymore [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]:

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, SB caps, Hero calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (16 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, MP calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP folds, Button raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, Button caps, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (24 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, Button raises, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, SB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 36 BB

Results:

SB has Qd As (one pair, tens).
Hero has Kd Ad (flush, ace high).
Button has 3d 5d (flush, ten high).
Outcome: Hero wins 36 BB.

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wow
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sbs
party
sn
pleeeease
thanks

lastcoyote · #63 06-28-2005, 08:01 PM

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wow
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thanks

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The funny thing is that SB was decent up to that point. Something like 30/15/2 stats and nothing out of line.

And to be honest nothing like that had ever really happened to me before last night. This thread was just a perfect opportunity to post this hand [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].

Sixth_Rule · #64 06-28-2005, 11:07 PM

I had to make a big withdraw for cash purposes but i also noticed that games at 2-4 where way softer since the summer started.

This is a mixed belssing for me .... I tied to make the move to 5-10 once with 300BB but lost 700 in 4 hours so i hit eject and went back to 3/6. Now i have a safer place to learn but i think 3/6 full (where i am most comfertable) will soon dry up.

jman220 · #65 06-29-2005, 12:24 AM

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You pay more rake, thats why you get more back.
I wouldnt say thats an advantage.

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oh but it is. If you're a winning player more raked hands equals more money won.

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I read the rakeback is not calculated by the rake you paid when you won a pot. I think your "paid rake" is a fraction of what everyone on the table contributed in rake.
I think that is a bit unclear, here is an example:
10 players on the table, player A wins and the rake for the pot is 10$.
You think that Player A´s "rake paid" now is 10$ but regarding to what I read the rake paid for every player at the table will be increased by 10$/10players = 1$.

I am not sure if that is correct but it makes sense to me. So it would not matter at all if you are a winning player or not, you pay the same rake and get the same rakeback.

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This is exactly why being a winning player does matter. It doesn't matter how many pots you win, you're getting a percentage of every one. Since most winning TAG's play far fewer hands than the donktastic lags, you're really getting a percentage of the rake they paid, hence, the more hands you play, the more you get.

jman220 · #66 06-29-2005, 12:30 AM

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Oh shit. Does that mean this isn't going to happen anymore [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]:

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, SB caps, Hero calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (16 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, MP calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP folds, Button raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, Button caps, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (24 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, Button raises, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, SB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 36 BB

Results:

SB has Qd As (one pair, tens).
Hero has Kd Ad (flush, ace high).
Button has 3d 5d (flush, ten high).
Outcome: Hero wins 36 BB.

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W
T
F

wow
can
i
please
have
sbs
party
sn
pleeeease
thanks

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My call on that river cap would definitely be a crying call.

sthief09 · #67 06-29-2005, 12:52 AM

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5-10 will remain good and so will 3-6.

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5/10 will get significantly worse. it doesn't take master poker theorist to figure this out

mungpo · #68 06-29-2005, 01:03 AM

I agree.

kidcolin · #69 06-29-2005, 01:41 AM

I'm pretty excited about it. I'm just getting back into poker and 6-max and wanted to start lower than 5/10 but didn't feel like dropping down to 1/2.

It will definitely make the 5/10 worse, but I'm not sure it will be so dramatic.. not after a little while at least. You'll eventually get people who are beating 3/6 who move up and are out of their league at 5/10.

Poldi · #70 06-29-2005, 04:59 AM

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]