Racist or not?...you make the call.

[daryn]

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I find that like the term "nigger-rig"

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What does this term mean?

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I've also heard the term be used as the less offensive "jerry rig"

It basically means that you fix or make something using spare or random parts. For example. Say your car broke a belt. Well instead of getting a new belt you decide to tie together some socks, wire, and glue to make a new belt. It is much like being McGuyver.

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Something can be jury-rigged or jerry-built. You are talking about jury-rigged with the MacGyver stuff.

Jerry-built is just plain badly made.

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You can say it's jury-rigged all you want, but at this point both are typically accepted and probably somewhat broken down by region as to what is typically used.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

jerry-rig

SYLLABICATION: jer·ry-rig
PRONUNCIATION: jr-rg
TRANSITIVE VERB: Inflected forms: jer·ry-·rigged, jer·ry-·rig·ging, jer·ry-·rigs
To jury-rig.
ETYMOLOGY: Alteration (influenced by jerry-build) of jury-rig.

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stupidity strikes again, how refreshing!

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http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-jur1.htm

If you want to try and correct it one person at a time though have fun.

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you understand what i was saying, right? i was not doubting your claim, i was merely lamenting the fact that people who can't get it right grow in number and eventually what's "right" gets changed.

[BeerMoney]

Who cares.

[Aces McGee]

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On more than one occasion up here in lilly-white New Hampshire, I've had patients say the following anti-semetic phrase in the context of a normal conversation such as:

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Don't think you might be skewing the results a bit?

-McGee

[Ulysses]

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but I know few jews who would particularly like the phrase.

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The people I know who use that phrase regularly are all Jews.

[diebitter]

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The people I know who use that phrase regularly are all Jews.

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That's pretty cool!

Also, can't be bothered to argue this, but isn't this positive discrimination (I also can't be bothered to argue the good/bad of +ve discrimination).

Isn't it like saying a Jew is a tough cookie in business?

[razor]

Though I don't recall having used the phrase, I have certainly heard it used on occasion. Until recently I had never considered how the word was spelled or what the origin of the phrase was, thus missing its 'obvious' reference to a specific group of people, to me it was just a phrase.

[SackUp]

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I find that like the term "nigger-rig"

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What does this term mean?

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I've also heard the term be used as the less offensive "jerry rig"

It basically means that you fix or make something using spare or random parts. For example. Say your car broke a belt. Well instead of getting a new belt you decide to tie together some socks, wire, and glue to make a new belt. It is much like being McGuyver.

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Something can be jury-rigged or jerry-built. You are talking about jury-rigged with the MacGyver stuff.

Jerry-built is just plain badly made.

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You can say it's jury-rigged all you want, but at this point both are typically accepted and probably somewhat broken down by region as to what is typically used.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

jerry-rig

SYLLABICATION: jer·ry-rig
PRONUNCIATION: jr-rg
TRANSITIVE VERB: Inflected forms: jer·ry-·rigged, jer·ry-·rig·ging, jer·ry-·rigs
To jury-rig.
ETYMOLOGY: Alteration (influenced by jerry-build) of jury-rig.

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stupidity strikes again, how refreshing!

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http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-jur1.htm

If you want to try and correct it one person at a time though have fun.

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you understand what i was saying, right? i was not doubting your claim, i was merely lamenting the fact that people who can't get it right grow in number and eventually what's "right" gets changed.

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well considering it is slang, who cares if it is modified over time? Words often are. Hence the phrase has gone from "jury rigged" all the way to "nigger rigged" and even "jerry rigged"

The right use is the use that conveys the message. It is the point that is important, not the phraseology.

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but I know few jews who would particularly like the phrase.

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The people I know who use that phrase regularly are all Jews.

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[Georgia Avenue]

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The people I know who use that phrase regularly are all Jews.

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That's pretty cool!

Also, can't be bothered to argue this, but isn't this positive discrimination (I also can't be bothered to argue the good/bad of +ve discrimination).

Isn't it like saying a Jew is a tough cookie in business?

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I could be bothered, so no, saying that Jews are misers and cheats isn't really positive stereotyping. I for one think that even positive sterotypes are hurtful. The fact is that there's a huge difference between South Park or Dave Chapelle being ironic about racism and language and some [censored] thinking he's being so anti-PC shock-jockular by slinging around some racial epithets that everyone has to laugh at if they don't want to seem like a wet blanket."Laugh at my lame socially awkward comedy jokes or I will act so self-righteous that you will vomit in your mouth!" Please! Leave the driving to the professionals...

By professionals, I mean: OOTiots, of course. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[HopeydaFish]

When I worked in sales I had a few customers say things like "don't Jew me" and "don't be such a Jew" when they were trying to negotiate for a better deal. I always found it shocking that someone would use this figure of speech when talking to a stranger. For all these people knew, *I* could have been Jewish...but they'd say these things without batting an eyelash.