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Old 11-28-2005, 07:05 PM
TheMetetron TheMetetron is offline
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Default Re: Can I call a river bet with T-high?

If kurosh was playing Schneids in this hand, I would agree with your call (though betting out might be better, I haven't thought about it enough yet).

Take that FWIW.
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Old 11-28-2005, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: Can I call a river bet with T-high?

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I think you're going to see "bluffs" of his with a Q or J a not-insignificant amount of the time. Sometimes even an A. Betting an A is terrible here, but that doesn't stop it from happening.

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Surf, this is directed at other replies in the thread and not at you:

Villain is a "decent unknown" according to kurosh.

I've gone back and forth with several posters about the preflop play with T7s. Personally, I think it's an easy raise, marginally good complete and marginally bad fold. Here's what I don't get:

How can a "decent unknown" possibly be sooooo great that we can't even play a +EV hand like T7s with odds (getting 3-1 on a complete and 3-2 on a raise), yet be soooo bad that he will bet a weak ace high on the river?

Those two player qualities can't simultaneously exist when trying to back up an argument for folding preflop.
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:09 AM
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I think folding T7s preflop is terrible.

One thing that hasn't been said: a suited 2-gapper will be undervalued by a hot-cold sim such as PokerStove. Offsuit disconnectors will generally be overvalued. But your positional disadvantage compensates in the other direction and does make this a close decision between folding and playing..............IF THERE WAS NO DEAD MONEY!

There's 1.5 SB of dead money: it's not even close.
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Old 11-30-2005, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: Can I call a river bet with T-high?

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On the river, a king is clearly betting. Ace-high shouldn't bet, but maybe it does sometimes. Q-high probably doesn't bet because what better hand is folding? I am calling with A-high all the time here and I think most people would too. J-high bets some of the time to get rid of Q-high.

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I don't get it. You say Ace high shouldn't bet and neither should Queen. You are also advocating a call with ten high. If second is correct, a bet with ace high and queen high is easy.
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