Sites Have Motivation to Reward Poor Players. Period.

[Hornacek]

What grocery stores sell the best tacos?

And speaking of tacos, is it just me or does Tostitos demolish any other chip?

[jwvdcw]

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You make a good point.

You could also just as well say that all grocery stores have a motivation to empty your bank account or run your credit card up to the limit as soon as you buy with a credit or debit card. They have a motivation to actually charge you $2000 for $20 worth of groceries.

For some odd reason, they don't do this. I wonder why?

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But the difference is that online poker sites aren't nearly monitored by checks and balances as much.

[jman220]

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There is no sense of agreement here on this painfully obvious issue. Anyone (mis?)spending his life playing online poker is usually unable to admit, on any level, that the game that sucks up all their life's output might be crooked. This is a hugely powerful force. You won't overcome it with logic.

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Nor, it seems, will I overcome it with bright red letters that state that <font color="red"> "I am not accusing any site of engaging in these "playing field leveling" activities." </font>

Indeed a rational discussion about a sites potential motivation seems to have been turned into a taco thread. You must admit this is amusing, given all the discussion about appropriate odds, correct lines, maximizing returns etc. on this site.

So, I guess for the people that missed it, (or didn't read it) <font color="red"> "I am not accusing any site of engaging in these "playing field leveling" activities." </font>

One more time:

<font color="red"> "I am not accusing any site of engaging in these "playing field leveling" activities." </font>

I think that should do it now. We're discussing motivation, not whether sites do it.

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Except that you sent an email to pokerstars accusing them of just that.

[webmonarch]

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Except that you sent an email to pokerstars accusing them of just that.

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Reading coomprehension is fun. Here is what I said:

"So, one day I decided to send what I will call a "bitch e-mail" that effectively asked about a string of bad beats to Pokerstars (by the way, Stars is just the example, I refer to all Sites in this post) support to see what kind of response I would get."

So, given that statement, it sounds like I sent an e-mail to Stars to see what kind of response such an e-mail would elicit.

Now, if I sent an e-mail to Stars accusing them of illicit activity, I would have said this:

"I sent an e-mail to Stars accusing them of illicit activities."

It is truly amazing how many people take the time to post some flame without (a) reading, and/or (b) comprehending the original post.

[jman220]

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Except that you sent an email to pokerstars accusing them of just that.

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Reading coomprehension is fun. Here is what I said:

"So, one day I decided to send what I will call a "bitch e-mail" that effectively asked about a string of bad beats to Pokerstars (by the way, Stars is just the example, I refer to all Sites in this post) support to see what kind of response I would get."

So, given that statement, it sounds like I sent an e-mail to Stars to see what kind of response such an e-mail would elicit.

Now, if I sent an e-mail to Stars accusing them of illicit activity, I would have said this:

"I sent an e-mail to Stars accusing them of illicit activities."

It is truly amazing how many people take the time to post some flame without (a) reading, and/or (b) comprehending the original post.

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I always read a post in its entirety before I respond. I stand by what I said. You sent an email to Pokerstars "asking about a string of bad beats." Based on this statement and the response pokerstars sent you, it seems pretty damned likely that you insinuated it was rigged. But hey, why not post the text of your email and let us judge.

[Tilt]

You know, it really was one of the most interesting online poker is rigger threads I have seen in a while. How did it become a taco thread?

I don't agree with the OP that this is happening at PS, but its an interesting question as to whether some sites may someday feel incented to use their software to guarantee that the fish pass over the rake a few extra times. Pokerstars never, they have too much to lose. But what about the smaller sites, as the become economically desperate, as they near the point where they have to post some good short-term results in order to find a willing buyer for their site?

One of these days a site is going to be exposed by evidence of "non-random" card patterns. I hope when that happens it doesn't chase a lot of people away. I do not understand why there isn't already an inspection/certification company or group out there to protect us and these sites against the impression of rigged cards.

[IndieMatty]

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You know, it really was one of the most interesting online poker is rigger threads I have seen in a while. How did it become a taco thread?

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[webmonarch]

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I don't agree with the OP that this is happening at PS,

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Please read the post before you respond to it.

"(by the way, Stars is just the example, I refer to all Sites in this post)"

And, again:

<font color="red"> I am not accusing any site of engaging in these "playing field leveling" acctivities. </font>

I put it in italics this time. Is that better?

[Tilt]

Hey man, I supported you. Then you flame me. Go stick a taco up your [censored].

[primetime32]

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I don't agree with the OP that this is happening at PS,

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Please read the post before you respond to it.

"(by the way, Stars is just the example, I refer to all Sites in this post)"

And, again:

<font color="red"> I am not accusing any site of engaging in these "playing field leveling" acctivities. </font>

I put it in italics this time. Is that better?

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The problem is that your post is either accusing them of doing it or completely useless. Who cares if they have motiviation to rig their sites? Everyone would do better in business if they cheated.

taco bell would save money if they used horse meat instead of cow meat. Does that mean they do that? well, they may, but you get the point.

Anyone who posts up a topic regarding the rigging or potential rigging of an online site will always be attacked unless they come forward with more than circumstantial proof that the sites are rigged.