Festa al Lago....Gigabet is weak tight at heart. - Page 6

fnord_too · #51 10-20-2005, 01:41 PM

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Given the way he got here, i don't particuarly love a push.. I'm not convinced Harrington calls with any worse hands.

That said, i'm pretty convinced of what i said earlier, check calling the turn, re-evaluate on river, either block bet or check-call again.

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This is IMO a much better line for Giga here. (If I already said that in this thread, I am getting this and the MTT threads mixed up in my head.)

pineapple888 · #52 10-20-2005, 01:43 PM

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Given the way he got here, i don't particuarly love a push.. I'm not convinced Harrington calls with any worse hands.

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Against a LAG in a blind vs. blind?

Or, conversely, he'll never fold JT?

Put him to the test. Give him a chance to make a "mistake".

Exitonly · #53 10-20-2005, 01:44 PM

I'm not too confident about Harrington making a mistake.

I'll take the safe route.

pineapple888 · #54 10-20-2005, 01:48 PM

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I'm not too confident about Harrington making a mistake.

I'll take the safe route.

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The point is, it's not a mistake in judgement, it's a "mistake" based on imperfect information, which is why I put it in quotes.

SossMan · #55 10-20-2005, 02:18 PM

If this was anyone but Gigabet there wouldn't even be a discussion except maybe to post this pic:

The Yugoslavian · #56 10-20-2005, 02:23 PM

He probably had 72o.

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Good luck pwning today!

Yugoslav

gobboboy · #57 10-20-2005, 04:02 PM

I agree that I simply cannot find a fold here. Blind v blind battles come down to ace high over king high sometimes, and folding top two against someone who loves to use their image seems -EV. I definitely jam the turn to his raise.

KingDan · #58 10-20-2005, 04:11 PM

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I had 72o, David actually bet 6k on the flop also. I was originally intending on representing diamonds, but the hearts got there instead, so I just had to make it incredibly unprofitable for them to call.

BTW, David spent 15 minutes in the tank, no one called for time, cause everyone at the table understood what an awful predicament I had put him in. He obviously had a big hand, but also understood that to make the call, he could never be wrong. Whole time he was in the tank, I was staring at the felt, with this mantra streaming through my mind. "pleasedontcallpleasedontcallpleasedontcallpleased ontcallpleasedontcallpleasedontcallpleasedontcallp leasedontcallpleasedon....)

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What hands would you push for value there?

Eric Draven · #59 10-20-2005, 04:27 PM

I don't understand why you would fold this, and really don't understand why it's easy.

Is it because he told you his hand was not that strong that you folded?

I really don't understand. Please explain.

schwza · #60 10-20-2005, 04:49 PM

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The way I see it, he can have 3 hands with action like this. JT, 33 or J3. KQ is absolutely unthinkable. One I lose to, one I chop with and one I win with. Why is this a tough fold?

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uhhh.... how about Q8? or 4h 7h? or 57?

or, in the realm of good hands, T4? J4? JQ? i think the small raise could be JQ's bid to get to a cheap showdown / lose a small amount if he's beat. T4 and J4 could be raising for value.

you need a very strong read on someone that they wouldn't raise twice with air or raise once with air and a second time with a draw in order to make that fold. as someone else said, if you were anyone else, everyone would say your play was horrible.

if you think it's the right fold, fine. but saying it's not a hard fold is ridiculous.