Preflop, flop, turn, heck the whole thing up for debate...

[Grisgra]

Well, that's disturbing.

I think a weak 9 is more likely to have raised the flop or raised the turn before your bet. His action seems more like a completely safe hand to me, like a boat. On the other hand, against the range that he'd limp with, you're ahead of a lot of them. You're ahead of 96s, 97, T9, J9. Behind to 98, K9, A9 (I'm sure he'd ol with A9, based on your descript). So actually you're not ahead of his open-limping nines by much. And he could have open-limped with a pocket.

It's close, but I think I don't cap. I'd cap with K9 or A9, probably. (But I don't know that doing so with K9 would be correct).

[Grisgra]

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He was bad. We split. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Congrats for dodging a bullet. Great hand to post. I think you were probably a little too agg (as I said in my previous post, if he open-limps with 96, 97, 98, T9, J9, Q9, K9, A9, 88, 33, you're only ahead of 4 of those and behind to the rest) but glad you ended up chopping.

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He was bad. We split. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Congrats for dodging a bullet. Great hand to post. I think you were probably a little too agg (as I said in my previous post, if he open-limps with 96, 97, 98, T9, J9, Q9, K9, A9, 88, 33, you're only ahead of 4 of those and behind to the rest) but glad you ended up chopping.

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I agree. I think the turn is close but bad. I should have called.

Krishan

[NLSoldier]

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I'm pretty sure I lean more to the tight side of the HUSH forum.

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Raising is probably marginally correct, you may get a blind to fold a weak king.

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Yeah, so now you can win the showdown with queen high. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[tolbiny]

you folded to the river check raise right?

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you folded to the river check raise right?

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you read the thread before replying right?

[StellarWind]

I think all three preflop actions are close.

The flop is a standard tradeoff between taking an immediate pot equity profit versus retaining the power of the button for the big streets.

If I raise the flop a bad card will turn (almost everything is bad on this drawish board). Then I will have to rebet my hand into three people, call down the likely checkraise because of outs and doubts, and have a generally terrible time.

I prefer to call and force my opponents to play the turn without my help.

My read on the turn is that SB has folded an eight or pocket third pair. UTG is probably call-raising with a full house, most likely 33 in view of the limp, no flop raise, and SB's hypothetical eight. I would call down the checkraise. We've already announced at least a nine and our kicker is only fifth-best at this point. Further aggression seems very reckless.

[goofball]

The PF limp is standard. Everyone limps (read: has a crappy hand), you have position and a decent hand. There are soo many ways you can win this pot after the flop you can't fold. You just can't.

Flop I wanted you to raise but then I read rory's argument and now I'm torn. If we don't raise there's a good chance we get outplayed by 77 looking for a free showdown or something esle creative, but that isn't quite enough reason to rasies here on such a heavy board when we can ensure a bet goes in on the turn.

Turn I like capping if you don't get checkraised on the river. I don't think most opponents c/r you on the river and 4 BBs on the turn river isn't quite enough. 5 is optimal imo. I think it's correct to cap and decide on the river, if he bets again just call, if he checke bet and call a c/r but hate it.

[tolbiny]

You do realize someone can state an opinion about how one should play without having to make a declaritive statement, right?