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Old 08-14-2005, 11:37 AM
BadMongo BadMongo is offline
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Default Re: Your are all right

Who's being results oriented now? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: Your are all right

Hey Mong

Maybe I have realised the error of my ways - since then 6 games, 3 firsts and 2 thirds - I seem to have stopped this habit of pushing on the bubble with Ax (except AK)

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Old 08-14-2005, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: What a STUPID 4th place...what should have I done?

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I wouldve raised 3x bb. If i get reraised, i would seriously have to consider what type of players they are. If theyre a bunch of TAGs, I fold to a reraise all in and live to fight another day. Even if he has pp 2's, its not worth calling on a coin flip because you are on the bubble. Wait it out for a better situation and dont over use the all in especially when you have so many chips. Its stupid to risk your entire stack for 3 sb.

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. the biggest consideration in just raising to 3x BB preflop (by the way, if i were to raise here, it would probably be to t500, the extra t100 doesn't get you much) is that an alert big stack should be pushing over the top with any two.

As the previous discussion has shown, it is incorrect to lead push preflop. It would be even more incorrect to call a push for all your chips, because you longer have the fold equity portion of the calculation working in your favor.
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Your are all right

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I seem to have stopped this habit of pushing on the bubble with Ax (except AK)

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Good to see that you got somethng out of this mess of a thread [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Be careful not too generalize the results of this thread too much though - often times pushing Ax on the bubble IS the correct play. It just so happened that it wasn't in this particular case.
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: What a STUPID 4th place...what should have I done?

I would have pushed as well with AJo. You're 4-handed, your "M" is 3 (For you Dan Harrington fans) so you're in the "Red" zone. It's not a matter of whether to go all-in, rather when to go all-in. You had 1st-in vigorish with a big Ace. What other kind of had could you be waiting for? It was just bad luck that you ran up against AK. I don't fault you at all for moving in.
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: What a STUPID 4th place...what should have I done?

*Sigh*

Did you read the thread AT ALL?
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: What a STUPID 4th place...what should have I done?

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*Sigh*

Did you read the thread AT ALL?

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But duuude, it's AJ, 4-handed!!11

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Old 08-14-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: What a STUPID 4th place...what should have I done?

play for 1st, biatch!!!111 [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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