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#51
08-21-2005, 08:27 PM
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Re: Bellhorn.
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[ QUOTE ] Not one of you mention the one stat that drives Sox fans up a wall with this guy. Strikeouts. sox fans who dont bother investigating the fact that the K is just like any other out. [/ QUOTE ] how is a K like any other out? does it ever advance the runner from second to third? does it ever get the runner home from third? does it give the fielders a chance to make an error? nope. sox fans aren't too bright i guess. [/ QUOTE ] does it ever cause a double play? 
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#52
08-21-2005, 08:28 PM
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Re: Bellhorn.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Not one of you mention the one stat that drives Sox fans up a wall with this guy. Strikeouts. sox fans who dont bother investigating the fact that the K is just like any other out. [/ QUOTE ] how is a K like any other out? does it ever advance the runner from second to third? does it ever get the runner home from third? does it give the fielders a chance to make an error? nope. sox fans aren't too bright i guess. [/ QUOTE ] does it ever cause a double play? [/ QUOTE ] Took the words right out of my mouth. K is not a very important statistic for batters, but it is VERY important for pitchers, because it guarantees that the ball is not put in play, and that is good.
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#53
08-21-2005, 08:34 PM
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Re: Bellhorn.
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr /> </font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr /> Not one of you mention the one stat that drives Sox fans up a wall with this guy. Strikeouts. sox fans who dont bother investigating the fact that the K is just like any other out. [/ QUOTE ] how is a K like any other out? does it ever advance the runner from second to third? does it ever get the runner home from third? does it give the fielders a chance to make an error? nope. sox fans aren't too bright i guess. [/ QUOTE ] does it ever cause a double play? [/ QUOTE ] sure, strike 'em out, throw 'em out. duh.
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#54
08-21-2005, 08:37 PM
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Re: Bellhorn.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Not one of you mention the one stat that drives Sox fans up a wall with this guy. Strikeouts. sox fans who dont bother investigating the fact that the K is just like any other out. [/ QUOTE ] how is a K like any other out? does it ever advance the runner from second to third? does it ever get the runner home from third? does it give the fielders a chance to make an error? nope. sox fans aren't too bright i guess. [/ QUOTE ] does it ever cause a double play? [/ QUOTE ] sure, strike 'em out, throw 'em out. duh. [/ QUOTE ] Surely you realize that's retarded, right? Because that can't cause a double play without the dumbass runner being caught stealing.
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#55
08-21-2005, 08:40 PM
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Re: Bellhorn.
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr /> </font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr /> </font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr /> </font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr /> Not one of you mention the one stat that drives Sox fans up a wall with this guy. Strikeouts. sox fans who dont bother investigating the fact that the K is just like any other out. [/ QUOTE ] how is a K like any other out? does it ever advance the runner from second to third? does it ever get the runner home from third? does it give the fielders a chance to make an error? nope. sox fans aren't too bright i guess. [/ QUOTE ] does it ever cause a double play? [/ QUOTE ] sure, strike 'em out, throw 'em out. duh. [/ QUOTE ] Surely you realize that's retarded, right? Because that can't cause a double play without the dumbass runner being caught stealing. [/ QUOTE ] ya, uh, i was kind of kidding. anyway, first and third one out. would you rather have a strike out or a ball hit in play...somewhere. the K means your next hitter has first and third, 2 down. but the ball in play could mean any number of things. I'd rather have a ball in play. U?
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#56
08-21-2005, 08:43 PM
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Re: Bellhorn.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Not one of you mention the one stat that drives Sox fans up a wall with this guy. Strikeouts. sox fans who dont bother investigating the fact that the K is just like any other out. [/ QUOTE ] how is a K like any other out? does it ever advance the runner from second to third? does it ever get the runner home from third? does it give the fielders a chance to make an error? nope. sox fans aren't too bright i guess. [/ QUOTE ] does it ever cause a double play? [/ QUOTE ] sure, strike 'em out, throw 'em out. duh. [/ QUOTE ] Surely you realize that's retarded, right? Because that can't cause a double play without the dumbass runner being caught stealing. [/ QUOTE ] ya, uh, i was kind of kidding. anyway, first and third one out. would you rather have a strike out or a ball hit in play...somewhere. the K means your next hitter has first and third, 2 down. but the ball in play could mean any number of things. I'd rather have a ball in play. U? [/ QUOTE ] It obviously depends on the hitter. If it's a high-K hitter that changes his approach to the plate in order to make contact, he'll very likely hit into a double play.
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#57
08-21-2005, 08:46 PM
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Re: Bellhorn.
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr /> </font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr /> </font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr /> </font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr /> </font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr /> </font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr /> Not one of you mention the one stat that drives Sox fans up a wall with this guy. Strikeouts. sox fans who dont bother investigating the fact that the K is just like any other out. [/ QUOTE ] how is a K like any other out? does it ever advance the runner from second to third? does it ever get the runner home from third? does it give the fielders a chance to make an error? nope. sox fans aren't too bright i guess. [/ QUOTE ] does it ever cause a double play? [/ QUOTE ] sure, strike 'em out, throw 'em out. duh. [/ QUOTE ] Surely you realize that's retarded, right? Because that can't cause a double play without the dumbass runner being caught stealing. [/ QUOTE ] ya, uh, i was kind of kidding. anyway, first and third one out. would you rather have a strike out or a ball hit in play...somewhere. the K means your next hitter has first and third, 2 down. but the ball in play could mean any number of things. I'd rather have a ball in play. U? [/ QUOTE ] It obviously depends on the hitter. If it's a high-K hitter that changes his approach to the plate in order to make contact, he'll very likely hit into a double play. [/ QUOTE ] how likely? say the next guy is a .300 hitter, so 3/10 times when your boy strikes out the next guy picks him up. I'd still rather have a ball hit in play, since I feel like >30% of the time we're getting a hit, a force out, or a sac fly.
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#58
08-21-2005, 08:55 PM
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Re: Bellhorn.
But the question really isn't "K or BIP?" It's a question of whether the upside (increased chance of an XBH) offsets the downside (strikeout) as opposed to the result of a change in plate approach (weak BIP).
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#59
08-21-2005, 09:24 PM
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Re: Bellhorn.
</font><blockquote><font class="small">En respuesta a:</font><hr />
But the question really isn't "K or BIP?" It's a question of whether the upside (increased chance of an XBH) offsets the downside (strikeout) as opposed to the result of a change in plate approach (weak BIP). [/ QUOTE ] i love baseball. they need a baseball forum.
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#60
08-21-2005, 09:48 PM
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Re: Bellhorn.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Not one of you mention the one stat that drives Sox fans up a wall with this guy. Strikeouts. sox fans who dont bother investigating the fact that the K is just like any other out. [/ QUOTE ] how is a K like any other out? does it ever advance the runner from second to third? does it ever get the runner home from third? does it give the fielders a chance to make an error? nope. sox fans aren't too bright i guess. [/ QUOTE ] does it ever cause a double play? [/ QUOTE ] sure, strike 'em out, throw 'em out. duh. [/ QUOTE ] Surely you realize that's retarded, right? Because that can't cause a double play without the dumbass runner being caught stealing. [/ QUOTE ] ya, uh, i was kind of kidding. anyway, first and third one out. would you rather have a strike out or a ball hit in play...somewhere. the K means your next hitter has first and third, 2 down. but the ball in play could mean any number of things. I'd rather have a ball in play. U? [/ QUOTE ] It obviously depends on the hitter. If it's a high-K hitter that changes his approach to the plate in order to make contact, he'll very likely hit into a double play. [/ QUOTE ] how likely? say the next guy is a .300 hitter, so 3/10 times when your boy strikes out the next guy picks him up. I'd still rather have a ball hit in play, since I feel like >30% of the time we're getting a hit, a force out, or a sac fly. [/ QUOTE ] #1 your an idiot #2 any value 'lost' by a guy striking out a lot, is gained by the fact that he generally sees a lot of pitches per plate appereance. #3 see #1
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