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Old 07-15-2005, 03:08 PM
BluEsiNsOuL BluEsiNsOuL is offline
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Sure, an EV of $5000 a month is attainable in the short-run, say for 6 months.

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Does that include some kind of high roller bonus? What is the bank roll requirement?

I also suggest to read the bonuswhore.com archive, it is very helpful.
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:11 PM
jman220 jman220 is offline
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I keep at any given point about five buyins on the site that I'm playing at, and then an additional 15 more on neteller. You don't need more than 5 buyins if your'e only 4-tabling, because if you ever drop below enough to do it, you can just instantly get cash from neteller, and your money is definitely safer on neteller than in an online casino. On the off chance that you lose 20 buy ins, you almost certainly need to take a break anyway, and you can always get more money into your neteller account within a few days anyway. (I play $100 nl, 6-max btw, if I played higher, I think I would probably keep even less on neteller, maybe 10 buyins).
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:11 PM
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Sure, an EV of $5000 a month is attainable in the short-run, say for 6 months.

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Really?. I seriously question that there are $30,000 ev per ID out there in reputable casinos. Maybe I need to take another look.

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For pure signup bonuses, it comes close to that number. When you factor in monthly reloads (about $5000 EV/year), juicy reloads (there have been two I know of this year that had a mid-four-digit EV) and other perks ($250 gift cards from Memolink, etc), $30K can definitely be surpassed.

Again, this is all in my experience. Maybe others really are somehow finding twice as much EV as me, but I doubt it.

-- Homer
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:19 PM
Homer Homer is offline
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Default Re: Online money management/bankroll

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Sure, an EV of $5000 a month is attainable in the short-run, say for 6 months.

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Does that include some kind of high roller bonus? What is the bank roll requirement?

I also suggest to read the bonuswhore.com archive, it is very helpful.

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I'm not sure what your definition of high-roller bonus is, but I would say that you don't have to do any to achieve this EV. The largest you have to do are deposits in the $500 range for the large sticky bonuses. I've done a few larger ones (32Red - £1000/£300 with a minimum bet size of £50), but they aren't required to achieve this rate.

There really are more casinos out there than you think. For me this year, my average cashout has been around $150 profit (~150 bonuses). So, for a minute just assume that is the average EV of a bonus. To get $5000 every month for 6 months, you'd have to do 33 bonuses/month, or about 1/day. In 6 months, that would be 200 casinos. Seems about right to me that there are 200 whorable casinos out there. You just have to dig deeper than Starluck/Planetluck/CoN. There really is more research time involved than actual play. The other day I played a £100/100/800 sticky at a site I had never seen mentioned, where the best game allowed was a Hi-Lo game with a 5% HA. Not the greatest bonus, but it had EV.

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Old 07-15-2005, 03:20 PM
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What do you mean by risking?
It's a pretty safe site.

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Scumbag x steals a credit card. Buys $1,000 online. Plays poker like a maniac. He sits at your table. You make a mint off him because he keeps going all in against you with 2/7 offsuit against your wired pairs and AK. Eurobet freezes your account because you were involved in a scheme to launder money from stolen credit card. You protest but they don't believe you. You forfeit your $4,500 roll. Its a worst case scenario, but it certainly is possible, and it happenned to the op.
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:53 PM
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I'm a NL player.. I generally play 8 tables, 4 at empire and 4 at intertops

5 buy ins at EP
5 buy ins at Intertops
5 buy ins min to 10 max at neteller for bonus whoring and bank roll backup.

If I get over 10 buy ins at neteller I start moving money to my local bank accounts. Now that I'm a royal member at EP I'm going to have to have 1g in my neteller account the first of everything month so I can bonus whore that 100.

PP and eurobet accounts are empty, only use them if whoring.
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Old 07-17-2005, 06:38 AM
ZimbuTheMonkey ZimbuTheMonkey is offline
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Point taken. I'm gonna keep most of it at Neteller. Any security issues that I should be aware of in doing so?
I was thinking keeping 5 buy-ins in Eurobet, so 500 bucks for NL100. And the rest (4800) in Neteller, sounds good? Watcha guys think?
Oh and thanks for the sound advice. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

EDIT: This is gonna work out pretty good actually. I always feel like playing some Party tournaments but I hate the delays in transfering back and forth, so it'll be good to have most of my funds available instantly.
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