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Old 07-12-2005, 12:19 PM
lehighguy lehighguy is offline
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Default Re: A simple question : for those who want to outlaw abortion

You've already made a judgement when you decide it shouldn't be criminalized.

Since no side can proof wether a fetus is live or not, the real question is what mechanism are we going to use to make public policy in thsi area.
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Old 07-13-2005, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: A simple question : for those who want to outlaw abortion

Rarely is law enforcement used to prevent crimes. Your post suggests that you think otherwise.

If, by enforce you want to know how we would catch and prosecute...the same way that we do for virtually every other crime.
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Old 07-13-2005, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: A simple question : for those who want to outlaw abortion

I don't exactly know what people who wave "the bloody coat hanger" are trying to show. The lengths to which women will go to murder their unborn? You expect sympathy for this? I have ZERO sympathy for any women who hurts herself doing that. I actually have more sympathy for overdosers because they weren't purposefully trying to end someone else's life.
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: A simple question : for those who want to outlaw abortion

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I don't exactly know what people who wave "the bloody coat hanger" are trying to show. The lengths to which women will go to murder their unborn?

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Do you believe that a woman should be prosecuted as a murderer if she has an abortion?


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Old 07-14-2005, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: A simple question : for those who want to outlaw abortion

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I don't exactly know what people who wave "the bloody coat hanger" are trying to show. The lengths to which women will go to murder their unborn?

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Do you believe that a woman should be prosecuted as a murderer if she has an abortion?


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Now no, when it is illegal yes of course she should.
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Old 07-14-2005, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: A simple question : for those who want to outlaw abortion

What are people like [censored] gonna do when abortofacients(abortion pills) become safe, inexpensive, and easy to use in the next 5 years. How's that gonna effect your plan to make it illegal? Outlaw the pills? How are you gonna make a woman prove that she was raped?
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Old 07-14-2005, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: A simple question : for those who want to outlaw abortion

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What are people like [censored] gonna do when abortofacients(abortion pills) become safe, inexpensive, and easy to use in the next 5 years. How's that gonna effect your plan to make it illegal? Outlaw the pills? How are you gonna make a woman prove that she was raped?

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First, of course you're outlawing the pills if Abortion is illegalized. What else do you expect people to do?

And right now, Courts judge whether or not someone is raped all the time. It has to do with their demeanor afterward, analyzed by psychologists, and there are things called "rape kits."

It's not easy, but it's not impossible.
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Old 07-15-2005, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: A simple question : for those who want to outlaw abortion

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Courts judge whether or not someone is raped all the time.

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Is it your position that abortion should still be legal in cases of rape or incest, or should it be prosecuted as murder regardless of such circumstances?


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Old 07-15-2005, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: A simple question : for those who want to outlaw abortion

I would argue that if we're going to outlaw abortions in some/all areas because we believe the mother does not have the right to kill her unborn, then yes, abortions for rape and incest shouldn't be allowed. That unborn had no choice in its creation. Why should it suffer because of the act of another? I would argue that the only in the cases where the mother's life or health are in serious danger.
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: A simple question : for those who want to outlaw abortion

Sorry, didn't see this addressed to me. Yes, and my only exception would be if the woman could prove that the pregnancy would cause her serious harm or death. This would be akin to self-defense. Otherewise, yes, I would prosecute any woman who had or tried to have an abortion.
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