easy bubble fold PF with QQ? - Page 6

Pepsquad · #51 06-01-2005, 04:46 PM

This is also one of the rare times I'll Fold and Show. Chances are, the big stack doesn't understand why you "properly" folded this and might use it as an invitation to continue attacking you after the bubble pops since apparently you only call pushes with the absolute nuts pre-flop.

draw2aflush · #52 06-01-2005, 04:48 PM

post that a few times OK!!!!!!! so i do not continue to get berated.I have posted 7 or 8 times since this opened.All along saying no doubt fold.It is amusing to see how many players think I suck for saying that though.Also said fold KKs.

the_joker · #53 06-01-2005, 04:52 PM

Yes indeed. I actually just got eastbay's program today and analyzed this hand properly. As others have said, only call with AA.

draw2aflush · #54 06-01-2005, 04:55 PM

friendly advice for u saint even though u seem like a dick i will give you the benifit of the doubt.read all posts before berating.open your mind last time otherwise keep losing

adanthar · #55 06-01-2005, 05:04 PM

The only thing I will say is that if you fold in a similar situation vs. me or anyone else decent, you had best be -EV against any two.

DasLeben · #56 06-01-2005, 05:07 PM

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The only thing I will say is that if you fold in a similar situation vs. me or anyone else decent, you had best be -EV against any two.

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Ahh, I knew someone would ask that. I meant to put that in my last post as a finishing point. Here's the math for that:

Pushing range:
Any two: +0.8% EV

So yes, if biggie is pushing any two, it's +EV, but not by a ton. If I know that biggie is pushing any two, then yes, it is a call. But against a standard donk, no. Fold every time.

I'd like to also add that in this case, you muck everything except for AA-QQ.

The Yugoslavian · #57 06-01-2005, 05:10 PM

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The only thing I will say is that if you fold in a similar situation vs. me or anyone else decent, you had best be -EV against any two.

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Duh.... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. Unless you know that I know you're pushing vs. me...then perhaps not...or ....maybe....bah.....meta-game implosion nearing...... *KABLOOOEY*!

Yugoslav
PS Look at my damn $215 hand!!!
PPS Nevermind...you did....you r0xxor!

microbet · #58 06-01-2005, 05:18 PM

You push with ANY two here as big stack? BB's calling range shouldn't be too tight. If it isn't, and SB has a very tight range, pushing with 72o or 32o or such is slightly -$EV. If you have a donk in SB who might call with 88, you are losing a lot of $EV by pushing with a trash hand.

I'm not saying you should be tight here, but maybe 96o or something.