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Old 01-08-2005, 03:39 AM
Gabe Gabe is offline
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Default Re: Not an easy fold to a turn reraise!

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Good thread but I'd like to see Tommy involve himself more beyond the original pot-stirring post

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He doesn't do any stirring, but he usually provides the pot.
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Old 01-08-2005, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: Not an easy fold to a turn reraise!

Flashback to Laugh-In, Dem Convention in Chicago, Bell Bottoms, Halter Tops, Farah Fawcett . . . .

Yes I really am that old.
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Old 01-08-2005, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: easy does it

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wow i was about to say how much i like this line and then tommy comes on saying he would've folded the river to a bet by either player. if L3 bets the river (which he could quite possibly do with a T, no?) then i make one more lazy call and see what's up. sure, you still have the L2 in there who might call with his spiked Q, but it's still worth seeing a showdown i think

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I could be wrong but I think he is basing his laydown on the river on his experience with these players and physical tells. If he is 95% confident in his reads then it is appropriate to make the laydown. This would be a foolish laydown online, but for Tommy in a live game he can do it profitably.
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Old 01-08-2005, 03:45 PM
Peter_rus Peter_rus is offline
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There is no way i can play this hand in this manner. I would raise flop. There is 10SB in a pot and i hate KQ to call down 1 SB as well as gutshots like Q9. I prefer to fold on turn if 3-betted on flop to L3 and i would have strong read that T cannot play this way. And even more i prefer to take down pot right now on flop if im allowed.
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Old 01-08-2005, 04:15 PM
elindauer elindauer is offline
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Default Re: easy does it

Hi Tommy,

You should substantially discount an eight on the flop as so many players would go for a check-raise in that perfect spot with the field trapped between them and the preflop raiser.

As such, the only reason not to raise the flop is to hope a good card comes off and you can raise the turn. Your line saves bets when you are behind, but loses as many when you are ahead, which is more common, not to mention giving you many more ways to lose the entire pot. Raise.


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