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Old 03-02-2005, 03:50 AM
jcmack13 jcmack13 is offline
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Default Re: Should I limp 22 UTG?

taking advantage of the rebump of this thread, I just want to confirm my idea that limping 22 UTG is at least EV neutral in a full ring game, but automuck in 6max? I ask here instead of HUSH because, well, this thread is here.
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Old 03-02-2005, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: Should I limp 22 UTG?

So what about suited connectors like 56-9T?
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Old 03-03-2005, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: Should I limp 22 UTG?

Is this why?

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Preflop:Hero is UTG with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666[/color">Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (15.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

River: (20.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.

Hero shows [ 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] three of a kind, twos.
MP2 doesn't show [ 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ] high card queen. (Sweet play, brah.)
CO doesn't show [ K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ] a pair of kings.

Hero wins $92 from the main pot.

Final Pot: 23.75 BB
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Old 03-03-2005, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: Should I limp 22 UTG?

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Is this why?

Hero wins $92 from the main pot.

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yes
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Old 03-03-2005, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: Should I limp 22 UTG?

Love the flop bet here
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Old 03-03-2005, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: Should I limp 22 UTG?

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So what about suited connectors like 56-9T?

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T9s is fine in a good game, probably down to 98s. 76s and the like are going in the muck until I'm in later position.

Playing a small pocket pair is easy postflop. Playing suited conn's is a bit tougher without the godsend that is position.

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Old 03-03-2005, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: Should I limp 22 UTG?

That was a rhetorical question.
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Old 03-03-2005, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Should I limp 22 UTG?

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taking advantage of the rebump of this thread, I just want to confirm my idea that limping 22 UTG is at least EV neutral in a full ring game, but automuck in 6max? I ask here instead of HUSH because, well, this thread is here.

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yeah, ask yourself if you'd open raise it in MP2 in a full ring game. if so, open raise it UTG in 6 max. if not, chuck it.

that's a slight oversimplification, but it should serve as a good starting point. you can in fact call with small pairs and suited connectors like 98s UTG in a passive 6 max game, should you find one. but never open limping is a pretty decent strategy.


6max UTG, I usually raise 77+ and ditch the rest. I might raise 66 on my LAGgy days.
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Old 03-27-2005, 12:16 PM
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Default Should I Cold Call 22 UTG?

What about cold calling 22 UTG?

I believe the correct answer is yes.
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Old 03-27-2005, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Should I Cold Call 22 UTG?

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What about cold calling 22 UTG?

I believe the correct answer is yes.

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you mean UTG+1?

fold 22 to an UTG raise, unless the table is ridiculously loose.
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