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Old 10-05-2004, 02:49 AM
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Uhhhhhhhh, people have had worse... Not me yet, but YET [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 10-05-2004, 04:18 AM
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Poker is like sex, it has it's ups and downs. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Btw Bait, is that a picture of some centipede that is flexing? That's what I see when I first look at it.
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:01 AM
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YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!
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Old 10-06-2004, 10:01 AM
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These questions can be answered pretty accuratly with a rudimentary knowldege of how to calculate standard deviations. Since you obviously weren't aware of this and since you are playing only 3-6, it is unlikely you do indeed play "very well".



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I wonder what David is implying...
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Old 10-06-2004, 11:50 AM
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These questions can be answered pretty accuratly with a rudimentary knowldege of how to calculate standard deviations. Since you obviously weren't aware of this and since you are playing only 3-6, it is unlikely you do indeed play "very well".



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I wonder what David is implying...

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Let's look at some numbers for a good 3/6 player over 30,000 hands. This player probably has a win rate of around 3 BB/100 and a standard deviation of around 15 BB/100.

The standard deviation can be adjusted to 30,000 hands by muliplying by the square root of 30000/100. This gives us an adjusted SD of 260 BB.

After 30000 hands our 3 BB/100 winner has an expectation of 900 BB. Suppose this player actually won only $287 or 48 BB. His result is 852 BB less than expected or 3.27 SDs.

Using the z-table here we see this result (or worse) has only a 0.000538 chance of happening. So while it is possible that our hero is a solid winning player, it is not very likely.

Paul
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Old 10-09-2004, 02:49 AM
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Incidentally, multi-tabling does NOT have any significant positive effect, but does have a negative one. It is literally impossible to play several games as well as you can play one.

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I have always had trouble multi-tabling. It seems that most times when I do I play 3 or 4 tables, I end up with a net profit of near zero. When playing more than two tables, I find it hard to get good reads on my opponents. Plus all of the windows popping up drives me nuts.

It would be interesting to know, on average, how much win rate is given up when additional tables are played.
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Old 10-09-2004, 04:05 AM
Fat Bottomed Girls Fat Bottomed Girls is offline
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It takes a full-time B&M pro more than 6 months to play 30,000 hands. Sklansky himself said if you're not winning after 4 months, you're not a winning player.

It's not because of variance. You're just not a competent player.

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Old 10-15-2004, 01:30 PM
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multitabling does have a positive effect.

beating a single table for 1 BB/hr = 1 bb/hr

beating 4 tables for .75 bb/hr each = 3 bb/hr
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Old 10-18-2004, 10:34 PM
Al Schoonmaker Al Schoonmaker is offline
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I would agree with your point on a per hour basis.

However, I believe the customary way of computing online win rates is in BB/100 hands.

The per hour rate could rise, and the per 100 rate would almost certainly fall when one multitables.

I was referring to the per 100 hands.

If multitabling has a large enough effect, a winning player becomes a loser.

Regards,

Al
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