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Old 02-20-2005, 07:42 PM
pshreck pshreck is offline
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No, the analogy really is terrible because it implies greater costs than what are actually incurred. The net loss of physically stealing a CD is many times greater than what ultimately amounts to not purchasing it.

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Explain this. It is certainly not true from the variable costs to make 1 more. You got to understand marginal costs.

The argument would be valid if you assume that those who are stealing in store are much more likely to 'buy' the product if they couldnt readily steal, which I also think is untrue. I think those stealing in stores are doing so because they have no money.
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Old 02-20-2005, 07:46 PM
Michael Davis Michael Davis is offline
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" I think those stealing in stores are doing so because they have no money."

This is definitely wrong.

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Old 02-20-2005, 07:48 PM
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" I think those stealing in stores are doing so because they have no money."

This is definitely wrong.

-Michael

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How is that wrong? I worked in Target when I was 16-17 in the electronics department / music section. EVERYONE we caught stealing via seeing or on camera was some kid, most likely because they could not afford the 15 bucks for the CD. I think this is pretty reasonable logic...
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Old 02-20-2005, 07:50 PM
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Only if Ashley Judd is broke.

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Old 02-20-2005, 07:51 PM
GuyOnTilt GuyOnTilt is offline
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How is that wrong? I worked in Target when I was 16-17 in the electronics department / music section. EVERYONE we caught stealing via seeing or on camera was some kid, most likely because they could not afford the 15 bucks for the CD. I think this is pretty reasonable logic...

That's not the most logical reason why "everyone" caught stealing from electronics was a kid. C'mon.

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Old 02-20-2005, 07:53 PM
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No, your right. I'm sure they were perfectly capable of buying these products, but risked stealing anyways? Doubt it. You guys certainly know how to get off track though, Ill give ya that.
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Old 02-20-2005, 07:56 PM
Michael Davis Michael Davis is offline
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I grew up in a relatively wealthy suburb and had plenty of friends who stole stuff from stores.

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Old 02-20-2005, 07:57 PM
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EVERYONE we caught stealing via seeing or on camera was some kid, most likely because they could not afford the 15 bucks for the CD. I think this is pretty reasonable logic...

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Ah yes, the reasonable logic behind making blanket statements about entire groups of people based on an extremely small sample size. Nice hand, sir.
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Old 02-20-2005, 07:58 PM
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I grew up in a relatively wealthy suburb and had plenty of friends who stole stuff from stores.

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Ok, bud, I'm not saying that there aren't other reasons for stealing, but I think it's reasonable to think that most of the kids stealing are doing so because they don't have enough money.

Were your friends getting a ton of money from their parents then still going out and stealing? Just because you were in a wealthy neighborhood doesnt mean these kids all have a bunch of money to spend.
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Old 02-20-2005, 08:02 PM
GuyOnTilt GuyOnTilt is offline
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No, your right. I'm sure they were perfectly capable of buying these products, but risked stealing anyways? Doubt it.

Dude, people with money steal all the time. You're wrong here. I went to a private high school with plenty of money and kids would make a serious effort to steal from the Coke machine. You think they couldn't afford a dollar for a beverage? Michael Davis has already given two other examples. You're wrong on this one.

You guys certainly know how to get off track though, Ill give ya that.

Stop making fallacious arguments and we wouldn't have to.

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