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Old 07-20-2005, 02:27 PM
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Seriously though, we aren't all satanists/anarchists just because we don't believe in the toothfairy and other stories.


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I don't think everyone is a satanist but I do think all non-theists are anarchists in principle.
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Old 07-20-2005, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: \"When you don\'t believe in God..........

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Seriously though, we aren't all satanists/anarchists just because we don't believe in the toothfairy and other stories.


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I don't think everyone is a satanist but I do think all non-theists are anarchists in principle.

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No gods exist; therefore, we should do away with government.

There must be some steps missing in the middle there.
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Old 07-20-2005, 03:07 PM
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There must be some steps missing in the middle there.


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I logically excluded the middle.
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Old 07-22-2005, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: \"When you don\'t believe in God..........

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Seriously though, we aren't all satanists/anarchists just because we don't believe in the toothfairy and other stories.


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I don't think everyone is a satanist but I do think all non-theists are anarchists in principle.

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How bizarre.
Personally, I believe in a higher authority. I try to follow most of the rules laid down by this higher power to the best of my abilities. I have respect for the power of said authority, and have no desire to free myself from my responsibilities where this authority is concerned.

I call it the state.
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Old 07-22-2005, 12:36 PM
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Personally, I believe in a higher authority


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I believe in higher authorities other than God as well. Parent, boss, state. But if there is no ultimate authority, or stated more correctly if your highest authority isn't ultimate, then you are in principle an anarchist. Fortunately not everyone acts in full accordance with their principles.
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: \"When you don\'t believe in God..........

obviously you and I have different conceptions about what constitutes an anarchist.

Yours seems to be "one who doesn't accept any ultimate authority". So I guess there's no arguing with you there...
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Old 07-22-2005, 03:09 PM
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Look at definition 3 and the etymology. Of course, you were using the word with respect to earthly rule. I was being a bit unfair because I was using the word in a different sense than you.

However, I'm not being completely unfair, because if you reject ultimate authority (an (without or no) + archy (ruler) - anarchy in the ultimate sense), you have no real justification for any ruler or rule of law and which would logically but not practically lead to temporal anarchy.


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NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. an·ar·chies
1. Absence of any form of political authority. 2. Political disorder and confusion. 3. Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose.
ETYMOLOGY: New Latin anarchia, from Greek anarkhi, from anarkhos, without a ruler : an-, without; see a–1 + arkhos, ruler; see –arch.


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Old 07-22-2005, 03:25 PM
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Isn't Buddhism, "non-theistic"?
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Old 07-22-2005, 03:57 PM
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Isn't Buddhism, "non-theistic"?

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There are different variations of Buddhism. Some have gods, some don't.
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Old 07-22-2005, 05:06 PM
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So regarding the non-theistic variations of Buddhism...couldn't we say that these Buddhists don't believe in a supreme being sort of god, but do believe in a power outside of themselves. In other words, there are more categories than just those who believe in a distinct supreme being authority and those who only recognize their own "authority".
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