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  #51  
Old 11-26-2005, 07:34 AM
TheMainEvent TheMainEvent is offline
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One more thing, if you get 3 pair which will be after the turn, check/fold. You won't hit a boat 9 out of 10 times and if you miss you won't even have a straight.

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Where do you get the 9 out of 10 number? If you have 2 pair you have 4 outs out of 14 unknown cards, correct?
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Old 11-26-2005, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: Royal LHE on Ub

You need to realize in this game vs. the original, with 6 players there are only 3 cards that don't play. That makes it different and can be clearly seen using Poker Stove. But go ahead and draw out every time in that situation if you like, I won't without a straight for a back up.
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:15 PM
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You need to realize in this game vs. the original, with 6 players there are only 3 cards that don't play. That makes it different and can be clearly seen using Poker Stove. But go ahead and draw out every time in that situation if you like, I won't without a straight for a back up.

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I was just wondering how you calculated that two pair only has a 10% chance of hitting a boat
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:14 PM
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It was a figure of speech I guess, maybe not that bad but really unless you have top 2 pair and good pot odds and no one raised raise pre flop expect yourself, then maybe. I can't get an exact calculation but you have to understand some or all of the cards you need are already taken. In the reagular game there is a large spread where half the cards will never come into play vs. most of them will in this game with 6 people. Experience seems to back this up as well.
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Old 11-26-2005, 09:05 PM
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It was a figure of speech I guess, maybe not that bad but really unless you have top 2 pair and good pot odds and no one raised raise pre flop expect yourself, then maybe. I can't get an exact calculation but you have to understand some or all of the cards you need are already taken. In the reagular game there is a large spread where half the cards will never come into play vs. most of them will in this game with 6 people. Experience seems to back this up as well.

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It's kind of a catch-22 really though. If you have top 2 and the pot is relatively small, the fact that nobody has been putting in many bets indicates that your draw is probably more live than usual, and if the pot is big your boat draw probably isn't as live but pots odds will force you to see the river, unless you have an additional reason to think you are drawing extremely slim or dead.
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Old 11-27-2005, 12:32 AM
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That might be the case assuming no one already has a made hand or is slow playing quads. Either way that is just one of many situations that come up. I'm really liking this game but it does get old and I will take jabs at the regular game every so often. I hope they get a 5/10 table.
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:24 PM
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Default Sweet play w/ straight on board (and poss. flush)

Made some extra moolah here!


Hand #9635386-13780 at Prescott ($3/$6 Royal Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 27/Nov/05 14:20:16

ironmonkey95 is at seat 0 with $173.
hlc342 is at seat 1 with $343.25.
Griley is at seat 2 with $34.50.
LoosePassive is at seat 3 with $274.
damachine is at seat 4 with $371.25.
akshawnd is at seat 5 with $50275.50.
The button is at seat 5.

ironmonkey95 posts the small blind of $1.
hlc342 posts the big blind of $3.

ironmonkey95: -- --
hlc342: -- --
Griley: -- --
LoosePassive: -- --
damachine: -- --
akshawnd: Kd Ac

Pre-flop:

Griley calls. LoosePassive calls. damachine folds.
akshawnd raises to $6. ironmonkey95 calls. hlc342
calls. Griley calls. LoosePassive calls.

Flop (board: Ks Qs Td):

ironmonkey95 checks. hlc342 checks. Griley checks.
LoosePassive checks. akshawnd checks.

Turn (board: Ks Qs Td Ah):

ironmonkey95 checks. hlc342 checks. Griley bets $6.
LoosePassive calls. akshawnd calls. ironmonkey95
calls. hlc342 calls.

River (board: Ks Qs Td Ah Js):

ironmonkey95 checks. hlc342 checks. Griley checks.
LoosePassive checks. akshawnd bets $6.
ironmonkey95 raises to $12. hlc342 calls. Griley
re-raises to $18. LoosePassive folds. akshawnd
re-raises to $24. ironmonkey95 calls. hlc342 calls.
Griley goes all-in for $22.50.



Showdown:

akshawnd shows Kd Ac.
akshawnd has Kd Ac Qs Td Js: straight, ace high.
ironmonkey95 shows As Kh.
ironmonkey95 has As Kh Qs Td Js: straight, ace high.
hlc342 shows Ts Th.
hlc342 has Ts Ks Qs Ah Js: straight, ace high.
Griley shows Qd Ad.
Griley has Qd Ad Ks Td Js: straight, ace high.


Hand #9635386-13780 Summary:

$3 is raked from a total pot of $154.50.
$3 is raked from the main pot of $150.
$0 is raked from side pot #1 of $4.50.
Griley wins the main pot $36.75 of a $147 pot with straight, ace high.
akshawnd wins the main pot $36.75 of a $147 pot with straight, ace high.
ironmonkey95 wins the main pot $36.75 of a $147 pot with straight, ace high.
hlc342 wins the main pot $36.75 of a $147 pot with straight, ace high.
akshawnd wins the side pot $1.50 of a $4.50 pot with straight, ace high.
ironmonkey95 wins the side pot $1.50 of a $4.50 pot with straight, ace high.
hlc342 wins the side pot $1.50 of a $4.50 pot with straight, ace high.
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:33 PM
Ulysses Ulysses is offline
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Default Re: Sweet play w/ straight on board (and poss. flush)

The 3/6 players were pretty tough, but after getting down a little, I managed to get them on tilt (especially Griley who was explaining to the whole table what an idiot I am) and knock out a sweet $53 win.


Hand #9635386-13786 at Prescott ($3/$6 Royal Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 27/Nov/05 14:26:20

ironmonkey95 is at seat 0 with $172.25.
Griley is at seat 2 with $43.25.
LoosePassive is at seat 3 with $245.25.
damachine is at seat 4 with $358.25.
akshawnd is at seat 5 with $55296.25.
The button is at seat 5.

ironmonkey95 posts the small blind of $1.
Griley posts the big blind of $3.

ironmonkey95: -- --
Griley: -- --
LoosePassive: -- --
damachine: -- --
akshawnd: Kh Qh

Pre-flop:

LoosePassive folds. damachine folds. akshawnd
raises to $6. ironmonkey95 folds. Griley calls.

Flop (board: Qd Ah Kc):

Griley checks. akshawnd checks.

Turn (board: Qd Ah Kc Kd):

Griley bets $6. akshawnd raises to $12. Griley
calls.

River (board: Qd Ah Kc Kd Jh):

Griley checks. akshawnd bets $6. Griley calls.



Showdown:

akshawnd shows Kh Qh.
akshawnd has Kh Qh Qd Kc Kd: full house, kings full of queens.
Griley mucks cards.
(Griley has Jd Ts.)


Hand #9635386-13786 Summary:

$1.50 is raked from a pot of $49.
akshawnd wins $47.50 with full house, kings full of queens.
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Hand #9635386-13787 at Prescott ($3/$6 Royal Hold'em)
Powered by UltimateBet
Started at 27/Nov/05 14:27:03

ironmonkey95 is at seat 0 with $171.25.
Griley is at seat 2 with $19.25.
LoosePassive is at seat 3 with $245.25.
damachine is at seat 4 with $358.25.
akshawnd is at seat 5 with $55319.75.
The button is at seat 0.

Griley posts the small blind of $1.
LoosePassive posts the big blind of $3.

ironmonkey95: -- --
Griley: -- --
LoosePassive: -- --
damachine: -- --
akshawnd: Qd Qh

Pre-flop:

damachine folds. akshawnd raises to $6.
ironmonkey95 folds. Griley calls. LoosePassive
calls.

Flop (board: Qc Th As):

Griley bets $3. LoosePassive raises to $6. akshawnd
re-raises to $9. Griley re-raises to $12.
LoosePassive calls. akshawnd calls.

Turn (board: Qc Th As Ts):

Griley goes all-in for $1.25. LoosePassive calls.
akshawnd completes to $6. LoosePassive folds.
akshawnd is returned $4.75 (uncalled).

River (board: Qc Th As Ts Jh):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

Griley shows Jd Ks.
Griley has Jd Ks Qc Th As: straight, ace high.
akshawnd shows Qd Qh.
akshawnd has Qd Qh Qc Th Ts: full house, queens full of tens.


Hand #9635386-13787 Summary:

$1.50 is raked from a pot of $57.75.
akshawnd wins $56.25 with full house, queens full of tens.
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Old 11-27-2005, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: Royal LHE on Ub

Lately I have noticed people with amazing accuracy when a straight is good even when the board is paired or even twice. I have a hard time understanding when a straight is good most of the time. I have folded when it was good and call when it's not most of the time. Anyone have a trick to knowing when it's good most of the time and when it is not? Cause some A-Hole is going to play garbage that hits a straight thinking he can't lose. Thanks
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  #60  
Old 11-28-2005, 01:35 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: Sweet play w/ straight on board (and poss. flush)

with how good you play royal HE why even play the big NL games?
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