10/20 AA Deep Stacks

[creedofhubris]

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pushing is probally best. he calls with jj.

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Pushing would be a standard play with a more reasonably-sized stack, like $2K. Here it's the stack sizes that make it awkward, since the average player will only call your very large raise with hands that beat yours and possibly KK. I'm glad you found someone "special" enough to call with jacks here.

[KaneKungFu123]

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pushing is probally best. he calls with jj.

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Pushing would be a standard play with a more reasonably-sized stack, like $2K. Here it's the stack sizes that make it awkward, since the average player will only call your very large raise with hands that beat yours and possibly KK. I'm glad you found someone "special" enough to call with jacks here.

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you like folding then, or calling?

[J_V]

patty pat?

Patty Cake, Baker's man?

[creedofhubris]

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pushing is probally best. he calls with jj.

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Pushing would be a standard play with a more reasonably-sized stack, like $2K. Here it's the stack sizes that make it awkward, since the average player will only call your very large raise with hands that beat yours and possibly KK. I'm glad you found someone "special" enough to call with jacks here.

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you like folding then, or calling?

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I'm not folding AA here to one barrel. Definite calling territory.

[KaneKungFu123]

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pushing is probally best. he calls with jj.

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Pushing would be a standard play with a more reasonably-sized stack, like $2K. Here it's the stack sizes that make it awkward, since the average player will only call your very large raise with hands that beat yours and possibly KK. I'm glad you found someone "special" enough to call with jacks here.

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you like folding then, or calling?

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I'm not folding AA here to one barrel. Definite calling territory.

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OK. The river card was a Jack (try to forget he had JJ).

What is your action?

If you check and he bets $3K, do you call?

[Yeti]

FWIW, I didn't reply to this thread because I didn't have much of a clue what to do, and my gut contradicted with everyone else.

I would almost certainly call this turn. I know it puts you in a dodgy river spot but I think that's better than making it $3k more to him. I think only a tiny percent of villains are going to make a mistake here. This isn't a pot that's been 3 or 4-bet preflop. You don't know he has another overpair. He could quite literally have anything, and you know not everyone in these games is raising the flop with a set.

[DcifrThs]

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i dont like riasing with aces when the stacks are deep. i go for the limp rr and i rr big. if it gets called through then you have the power. no one is going to make a ballsy bluff move on you because everyone is afraid of the nuts in a limped pot. your much more likely to get called down are play patty pat with a hopeless hand that doeasnt know where its at.

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u really need to post more.

Barron

[BobboFitos]

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pushing is probally best. he calls with jj.

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Pushing would be a standard play with a more reasonably-sized stack, like $2K. Here it's the stack sizes that make it awkward, since the average player will only call your very large raise with hands that beat yours and possibly KK. I'm glad you found someone "special" enough to call with jacks here.

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you like folding then, or calling?

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I'm not folding AA here to one barrel. Definite calling territory.

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OK. The river card was a Jack (try to forget he had JJ).

What is your action?

If you check and he bets $3K, do you call?

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just tossing an idea here but obv you c/c all in on a (non club ) jack. this optimizing win vs weaker made hands + bluffs, whereas by check/pushing you're cancelling out the bluff part. So by c/c x2 you enable yourself to win when he is weaker but wants the pot, by c/r you win only when he semibluffs the draw but would've hit on the river (but if you c/f to a club it's all nil for riv..)

my action is still check/push turn, bigger stacks make this different, I like your play alot, but c/c two streets is a real viable alternative.

[mgsimpleton]

problem with this reasoning - given that he called the c/r all in with jacks, we know he wasn't bluffing he was value betting?? so will not bluff the riv he will likely check behind.

normally a line i like is check call turn, 2/3 pot block riv but it's just that his turn overbet made this line so awkward because a river block bet wouild be almost pot committing... therein lies the problem.

[BobboFitos]

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problem with this reasoning - given that he called the c/r all in with jacks, we know he wasn't bluffing he was value betting?? so will not bluff the riv he will likely check behind.

normally a line i like is check call turn, 2/3 pot block riv but it's just that his turn overbet made this line so awkward because a river block bet wouild be almost pot committing... therein lies the problem.

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I think blocking the river is real bad if you check call turn; firstoff any river bet will give you sick odds on a river call, but if we block, chances of a river bluff raise are slim. so it'll be a fold but it'll make us feel sick, especially on a blank.

I'd rather check/call twice, if he's aggro enough to semibluf on the turn once we check river he will bluff again on a blank.

And with JJ he was valuebetting/protecting his hand,as said this is a SMALL WINDOW of his hand range, *thus we were all surprised hwne he called the c/r, because it's a small range with stacks this deep of worse hands which will call (KK, QQ,JJ) so you cant worry about the few times oyu lost value from the borderline made hands which will take free showdown.

All this said I still like OP's line best and one i use most oop w/ a big pair on a draw heavy board

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