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why don't you answer my question?

How much do dealers want to make? I'd say $10 - $15 and hour is more than enough. I can't accept that they should make $50 + per hour.

If you don't like the pay get another job...the problem is most of these monkeys can't earn more in any other job. Take what you get and stop f'ing crying. If you want more of the players money...play against them and see how much you can get moron,

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this lady(MASONMOM) should run the top poker rooms. the reasons the heigher limit guys don't tip as much is because they are smarter (afer all there should be a corelation between high limits and IQ)getting over $50 an hour to move some cards is insane. $10-15 is fair.

[Randy_Refeld]

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I was talking to a Borgata dealer and he was bitching about how much Al Ardebili tipped this year (30k) vs. Negreanu's tip of around 60k last year. He said that difference in tip made the hourly $50 this year vs $100 per hour last year. (obviously just for the tourney)

Cry me a river.

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Normally at major touranments teh final event is a large pay day for the dealers. The touranment management likes this as it keeps the dealers committed for the entire tournament and it off sets dealing the large side games wehre they receive no tip.

Even if I use your numbers: $130 - $180 per day for 6 hour of actual work (12 half hour downs per shift) sounds pretty generous to me. Include their hourly wage, free food, benefits & favourable tax treatment...sounds like a very good deal to me. Thats why people want these jobs. Compare this to those poor souls that have to work 8 hours with only two 15 minute breaks and a half hour lunch for much less per hour. Bottom line, why complain if you get stiffed by some playes and still make an average of $155 dollars per shift. Dealers still make enough and thats exactly why there is so much demand for these jobs

you must work at the bellagio...95% of the dealer are mofo's and deserve nothing...you're a jackass and should be treated accordingly.

[Voltron87]

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1. Im pretty sure that they dont want more money perportional to the pot. They just want to be treated fairly ad thrown a buck every once and awhile.

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you have not met the same dealers i have. as i said, i tip more than fine, i am very generous to regular dealers who do a good job and pay attention, there are just way too many stuck up bad dealers out there.

[youtalkfunny]

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Even if I use your numbers: $130 - $180 per day for 6 hour of actual work (12 half hour downs per shift) sounds pretty generous to me. Include their hourly wage, free food, benefits & favourable tax treatment...sounds like a very good deal to me. Thats why people want these jobs. Compare this to those poor souls that have to work 8 hours with only two 15 minute breaks and a half hour lunch for much less per hour. Bottom line, why complain if you get stiffed by some playes and still make an average of $155 dollars per shift. Dealers still make enough and thats exactly why there is so much demand for these jobs

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I dealt poker for five years.

I can't disagree with anything written in this post.

Though I was lucky enough to never have to deal games that big. I'm sure if I did, I'd vent about it.

The biggest problem I have with these dealers is that it's always about them and how they suffer making less than a dollar per deal on average. I have to remind everyone that its not about the dealer, instead its about the customer (PLAYER). Without the players there is no game and all of these jackasses would be working at McDonalds. Remember that point and GET BACK TO WORK you idiots. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[bogey]

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I was talking to a Borgata dealer and he was bitching about how much Al Ardebili tipped this year (30k) vs. Negreanu's tip of around 60k last year. He said that difference in tip made the hourly $50 this year vs $100 per hour last year. (obviously just for the tourney)

Cry me a river.

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This pisses me off so much its unbelievable. I wish there was some way Al could go and ask for the money back.

fwiw, after the wsop this year, i felt kind of railroaded into leaving a tip. They had this dealer and staff guy come in and tell me what was customary. (The dealer said 5 to 10 on a win of my size, which I thought he meant 5k-10k, but looking back I wouldn't be suprised if he meant 5-10%)And when I asked what about the casino's percentage they told me less than 2% goes to the dealers. I asked to leave my check there and leave the tip when I came back after I talked to some other players, but they said if I didnt leave the tip that day the dealers wouldn't get it. I finally decided to leave 5k, which I thought was reasonable. When I gave it to them they hardly even seemed appreciative, kind of acting like I stiffed them. I should have taken it back.

Mr. Pink in Reservoir Dogs had a very good speech about tipping. do you tip fast food workers? do you tip your doctor when going for a check up? why not? but society says, "tip them, but don't tip them"
it shouldn't matter if a pot is 100 or 1000, why would a dealer expect that much more? it's the player's money. imagine a cashier who sold a winning lottery ticket and demanded a cut. greed...
there are so many sides to this argument..
basically, with me what it boils down to is: if a dealer is fast and does the job well, and the pot is worthwhile, i will throw him a buck or .50 when playing 3/6. if the dealer does a bad job or takes a longer time dealing hands, then he is not rewarded. tips are not required, they are optional.
just like others have said, if the dealers complain about not making enough money, they can get another job.

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The biggest problem I have with these dealers is that it's always about them and how they suffer making less than a dollar per deal on average. I have to remind everyone that its not about the dealer, instead its about the customer (PLAYER).

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I'm glad someone said this. Businesses are about customer satisfaction. People in customer service positions have to deal with crap from customers, that's part of the job and you should accept it when you apply for the position.