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#51
05-06-2005, 07:27 AM
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Re: Beatles vs. Led Zeppelin
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] It's a tough one, since they're my two favorite bands, but I had to go with Zeppelin for their superior musical ability. [/ QUOTE ] Other than Bonzo clearly being better on the drums than Ringo, I don't see how any Zeppelin member is better than any Beatle member in musical ability. George > Jimmy (guitar) Paul > John Paul (bass) John > Robert (vocals) Don't even get started on songwriting ability. This one should be a slam dunk for the Beatles. [/ QUOTE ] You're kidding right? George was a run of the mill guitarist, and Jimmy was one of the greatest. John Paul Jones was a much better bassist and pianist than McCartney(sp?). Robert Plant was a more talented vocalist by far. You might actually have somewhat of an argument if you include the small period where Eric Clapton played with the Beatles. The Beatles do have the edge in songwriting. [/ QUOTE ] John Paul Jones was not a better bassist than McCartney. Not even close. McCartney was a much, much better musician in general as well. Plant vs. Lennon is close but that's JMO. They aren't really comparable as the music is so different. [/ QUOTE ] Evidence in favor of JPJ: -Ramble On -Lemon Song (great blues playing) -Good Times, Bad Times -Immigrant Song -Black Dog (He wrote the riff) -The Song Remains the Same -Achilles Last Stand I will say that Lennon/McCartney wrote better lyrics. I don't think it's as important as the musical songwriting. 
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#52
05-06-2005, 07:51 AM
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[ QUOTE ] the beatles are pop. [/ QUOTE ] You obviously haven't heard about half of their music. [/ QUOTE ] The other half was about drugs. But then, those were some of the best songs ever.
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05-06-2005, 07:51 AM
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Re: I like arguments about bass players!
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No one who wasn't a musician already (or deeply knowledgeable of music) could truly hear what the damn dork was playing on the bass yet we could be arguing about who's the best bass player until morning! Face it, all those Best (Instrument player) polls are nothing but about who's the most popular or most revered at the time. The best polls are those among the musicians themselves. They know what they are talking about. BTW, here's my deal: Guitarist: Page over Harrison (come on!) Guitarist: Lennon - by default! Bassist: Macca over Jones, and it's not even close. Drummer: I don't mind having Bozo over Starr, but let it be known that Mr Starkey was a vastly underrated drummer! (Check him out, for instance, in "I Saw Her Standing There" which is restrained yet pure, pure testosterone drumming.) Overall output in music: Fab over Zep, and it's not even close. [/ QUOTE ] This is not even close. Bonzo. Listen to When the Levee Breaks or In My Time of Dying.
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#56
05-06-2005, 10:50 AM
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Re: I like arguments about bass players!
This is not even close. Bonzo.
And what did I say different? But too many people dismiss Starr's drumming. Listen to "When the Levee Breaks". A long time ago, I taped the old blues version with Memphis Minnie first and right as the last whining guitar chord is struck, I edited in the Zep number with Bonham's thunder intro. DJ was floored.
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05-06-2005, 11:08 AM
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this from a college kid, hilarious [/ QUOTE ] What? What does that have to do with anything? Do a search sometime for "The Beatles Memorabilia Price Guide." My dad wrote those; all three. And he's working on the fourth right now. Just because I'm in college doesn't mean I don't know anything about music. [ QUOTE ] led zepplin has been much more influential. not that that matters at all. name the band(s) that sounded like LZ before LZ. cant do it? all heavy metal/hair bands after sound something like LZ. beatles are solid. i give them that. but, the rolling stones are more comparable (and better music). the beatles are pop. LZ are the godfathers to everything from motley crue to coldplay. beatles are godfathers to pop rock. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sorry, but in the words of Colonel Potter, "HORSE HOCKEY!!" I would give you a triple bogey, but that rating system is reserved soley for joke posts. Although this might be considered a joke.
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#59
05-06-2005, 11:27 AM
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BTW, anyone who says that Page is one of the greatest guitarists of all time either--1. can't play guitar, or 2. sucks at guitar. [/ QUOTE ] 100 best the list is obviously flawed (i love nirvana, but kurt at 12??) but saying that Page isn't ONE of the best is flat out idiocy. He's not the best, he played sloppy at times, but give the guy the credit he's due.
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05-06-2005, 12:08 PM
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Re: Beatles vs. Led Zeppelin
Coldplay owes a helluva lot more to the Beatles than to Zep. Zep is derivative blues, with a splash of JRR Tolkien and theatrics. Yes, it did spawn a genre. The Beatles went from bubblegum pop idols to revolutionizing music. Its as if the Backstreet Boys became... well there is nothing that really revolutionizes music any more that I can think of. Songwriting, instrumentation and recording technique of pop music all greatly changed with the Rubber Soul - Sgt Pepper's era.
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