(109) more AQ bubble fun with raptor

[lacky]

wow, I'm really confused how almost half think they need to play this hand. This place is getting weird.

[Bigwig]

I call.

EDIT-- 60/40 in favor of folding, eh? I thought this was the G00T forum? Hee haw.

[Daliman]

I'd call this. Too many factors working in your favor, and i'd gather that loose raising ranges for both,(which they should be) in tools would back it up.

If I could figure out how to get the farging thing to have 2 people allin...... [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

FWIW, I show just the call vs the SB any 2 is -1.7%, but that ain't close to right for this.

[Scuba Chuck]

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I'd call this. Too many factors working in your favor, and i'd gather that loose raising ranges for both,(which they should be) in tools would back it up.

If I could figure out how to get the farging thing to have 2 people allin...... [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

FWIW, I show just the call vs the SB any 2 is -1.7%, but that ain't close to right for this.

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I tried rearranging the order so that shorty was the BB, and changed the blinds to 250/500 so that he was allin, to account for the 3 way, but I think if I keep trying to do this, SNGPT might blow up.

The best part is that I get a pop up saying that this is a patch he might fix sometime in the future. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[The Don]

I call everytime here. Too lazy for a cost benefit analysis, from experience it seems like calling is the best move.

[valenzuela]

I voted call.
There are 6 possible outcomes.( H-hero, B-big stack, S-short stack)
HBS
HSB
BSH
BHS
SBH
SHB

If hero wins , SS is eliminated and hero kick ass. That happens( not taking into account that our hand is AQ ) a third of the time.
If the big stack wins, we are pwned however nobody can dislike 91 dollars.
If short stack wins, we kick ass half of the time and get totally screwed the other half of the time.

Anyway even if u didnt get what I did above I will sum it up:
You only bust fourth once every 6 times( similar to aces against some random crap...)
What kind of gigantic puss folds here??? Not me, Im taking my chances with AQ. I havent read any other post so maybe I repeated what everyone said or maybe my idea has already been refuted.

[Slim Pickens]

I'm calling here.

[shorty,button,big,you]=$EV(raptor)
Fold:
shorty wins: [1360,2690,4140,1810]=0.2151
shorty loses: [0,2690,5500,1810]=0.2831
It's hard to say who will have the better hand, so I'll call this 25% equity.

Call:
[shorty,button,big,you]
shorty wins side, you win main: [1440,2690,2410,3460]=0.3075
you win both: [0,2690,2410,4900]=0.3806
big stack wins both: [0,2690,7310,0]=0.2000
short wins main, big wins side: [1440,2690,5870,0]=0

OK, so just guessing at some hand ranges.
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 42.2481 % 40.09% 02.16% { AQo }
Hand 2: 28.8968 % 27.34% 01.56% { 22+, A2s+, Q2s+, J7s+, T8s+, A2o+, K2o+, J9o+, T9o }
Hand 3: 28.8552 % 27.30% 01.56% { 22+, A2s+, Q2s+, J7s+, T8s+, A2o+, K2o+, J9o+, T9o }


So I'll say shorty wins the main pot 30% of the time (and you win the side 65% in that case), big stack wins both 30% of the time, and you win both 40% of the time.

(40%)*0.3806+(30%)*0.2000+(30%)*(65%*0.3075+35%*0. 0000)=0.2722

Yeah, I'm calling.