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11-09-2005, 01:22 PM
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Re: It simply doesn\'t get any dumber than this (NC)
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. In this situation playing AK for a limpraise is a good play. I don't agree with those saying always raise with AK. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You're only 31% to hit A or K on flop. Push it. [/ QUOTE ] wtf... that makes no difference whatsoever. He limps/aggressive bigstack raises/he comes over the top all-in. Do you see why the percentage of his hitting his cards on the flop is totally irrelevant to this discussion and limp/raising is not a bad play? Actually, that's the only part of his post I did like. Kirk 
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#43
11-09-2005, 01:28 PM
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Re: It simply doesn\'t get any dumber than this (NC)
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[ QUOTE ] Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. In this situation playing AK for a limpraise is a good play. I don't agree with those saying always raise with AK. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You're only 31% to hit A or K on flop. Push it. [/ QUOTE ] wtf... that makes no difference whatsoever. He limps/aggressive bigstack raises/he comes over the top all-in. Do you see why the percentage of his hitting his cards on the flop is totally irrelevant to this discussion and limp/raising is not a bad play? Actually, that's the only part of his post I did like. Kirk [/ QUOTE ] If he has zero FE against big stack, then limp. If he has FE, then first action is to push. You don't want to limp/push because then bigstack is potcommited and you're just 43% to hit A or K by river. The whole reason that pushing with AK (if you're first to act) is profitable is because of the extra BB you get from FE.
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#44
11-09-2005, 01:40 PM
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Re: It simply doesn\'t get any dumber than this (NC)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. In this situation playing AK for a limpraise is a good play. I don't agree with those saying always raise with AK. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You're only 31% to hit A or K on flop. Push it. [/ QUOTE ] wtf... that makes no difference whatsoever. He limps/aggressive bigstack raises/he comes over the top all-in. Do you see why the percentage of his hitting his cards on the flop is totally irrelevant to this discussion and limp/raising is not a bad play? Actually, that's the only part of his post I did like. Kirk [/ QUOTE ] If he has zero FE against big stack, then limp. If he has FE, then first action is to push. You don't want to limp/push because then bigstack is potcommited and you're just 43% to hit A or K by river. The whole reason that pushing with AK (if you're first to act) is profitable is because of the extra BB you get from FE. [/ QUOTE ] If you push, you probably pick up 1.5xBB. If you play for a limpraise, you are likely to pick up 6xBB or 16.5xBB. Why not trap big stacks trying to steal on the bubble. This seems like a subtler approach than open psuhing for 10xpot.
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