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Old 09-27-2005, 01:13 PM
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:24 PM
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I'd probably raise QTo.

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this is like my favorite post ever
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:32 PM
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I'd probably raise QTo.

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Not me, but it's probably close.

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Old 09-27-2005, 02:09 PM
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i think i prefer to cap and bet or call one if he leads on the river. this looks an awful lot like 88 and A9-K9, 98, but i think J9, T9, and 97s should definitely be considered.


edit: i think it's close between calling down and capping and calling one on the river

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Granted, UTG is read as bad, but I think what swings this to calldown is that he didn't try to protect his hand on this drawy board (str and 2 fd's). To me that screams boat: we've got the action we wanted on the turn, let's pop it now (UTG thinking).
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Old 09-27-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Preflop, flop, turn, heck the whole thing up for debate...

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I'd probably raise QTo.

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you need to post more. Im sick of being the only lagtard.
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Old 09-27-2005, 02:56 PM
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This preflop call is something I've just started adding to my game and its been hugely +EV over the last few k hands.

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Stop right there and figure out why this statement sucks.
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Old 09-27-2005, 02:56 PM
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I think you played the entire hand really well.
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Old 09-27-2005, 03:03 PM
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Preflop, I raise when I'm feelin' my oats, otherwise I just call. Or even fold. I can't imagine a huge difference in EV here anyway you play it. Raising is probably marginally correct, you may get a blind to fold a weak king.
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Old 09-27-2005, 03:07 PM
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I'm pretty sure I lean more to the tight side of the HUSH forum.
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Old 09-27-2005, 03:08 PM
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If UTG and MP are as bad as you say, they'll call the flop with any single overcard, maybe any backdoor draw. They *probably* won't do so on the turn, and they may even fold that overcard after you raise. So while it's contrary to the wait-a-street-until-you-are-sure-you-are-safe-to-raise philosophy, I raise. It may well be the case that if you just call, it gets checked around to you on the turn if SB checks with his 8 or heart draw and UTG/MP miss.
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