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Old 09-09-2005, 03:32 PM
Sephus Sephus is offline
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I have always thought the two cans will cool at the same rate, based on thermodynamics

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based on what now?
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Old 09-09-2005, 03:32 PM
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I have always thought the two cans will cool at the same rate, based on thermodynamics

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based on what now?

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Whoah whoah whoah... don't be quoting like it's me saying that [censored].
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:35 PM
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I have always thought the two cans will cool at the same rate, based on thermodynamics, I have not yet found the specific law yet.


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Wow. Just... wow.

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Homer said it best
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:47 PM
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I have always thought the two cans will cool at the same rate, based on thermodynamics, I have not yet found the specific law yet.

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You've got it backwards. It's the little-known Fourth Law of Thermodynamics which has to do with Empathy. You see, you understand that the freezer feels colder than the fridge, so the can placed in the freezer must cool faster.
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Putting Coke in Freezer to cool faster?

a freezer works because no closed system is fully entropic.

cold molecules create a cushion so to speak around the warm faster moving molecules, eventually they collide and bump around and slow down bcause the cold molecules act as cushions. the cushions acelerate and the effect dissipates throughout the freezer.

the colder the molecules the more akin to a cushion, the warmer (such as in the fridge) are more mobile and move as well. physically, when to moving objects collide, (like a bat and a ball) there are greater force components. i know im mixing these metaphors ,but the force of the movement of the molecules is greater, therefore warmer because they move more when they collide, as oppsoed to the colder ones.

i think this is how it works, but dont quote me.
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:02 PM
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They also tested a bunch of other ways to chill beer in order to find the best method. The best method by far was to use saltwater and ice.

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How long did that take? I've always thought that spinning the coke/beer with your hand while it's submerged in ice water was the fastest way. You can usually get a warm coke pretty damn cold within 4-5 minutes with this method.
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:08 PM
Patrick del Poker Grande Patrick del Poker Grande is offline
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a freezer works because no closed system is fully entropic.

cold molecules create a cushion so to speak around the warm faster moving molecules, eventually they collide and bump around and slow down bcause the cold molecules act as cushions. the cushions acelerate and the effect dissipates throughout the freezer.

the colder the molecules the more akin to a cushion, the warmer (such as in the fridge) are more mobile and move as well. physically, when to moving objects collide, (like a bat and a ball) there are greater force components. i know im mixing these metaphors ,but the force of the movement of the molecules is greater, therefore warmer because they move more when they collide, as oppsoed to the colder ones.

i think this is how it works, but dont quote me.

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Old 09-09-2005, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: Putting Coke in Freezer to cool faster?

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a freezer works because no closed system is fully entropic.

cold molecules create a cushion so to speak around the warm faster moving molecules, eventually they collide and bump around and slow down bcause the cold molecules act as cushions. the cushions acelerate and the effect dissipates throughout the freezer.

the colder the molecules the more akin to a cushion, the warmer (such as in the fridge) are more mobile and move as well. physically, when to moving objects collide, (like a bat and a ball) there are greater force components. i know im mixing these metaphors ,but the force of the movement of the molecules is greater, therefore warmer because they move more when they collide, as oppsoed to the colder ones.

i think this is how it works, but dont quote me.

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Please don't ever take up any sort of teaching career.

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lol.
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:13 PM
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I've also witnessed countless arguments over this. The argument even erupted in a senior level engineering mathematics course I was teaching when we were discussing the differential equation governing Newton's Law of Cooling. Be very scared that these people are building your bridges.
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:13 PM
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They also tested a bunch of other ways to chill beer in order to find the best method. The best method by far was to use saltwater and ice.

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actually, the best method was the fire extinguisher, heh.
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