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Old 08-15-2005, 08:48 PM
punter11235 punter11235 is offline
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Default Re: Could I be a losing player at $200nl 6-max?

little strange you went very aggro with AK and very passive with AA. I think that 3betting with AA is obligatory here (or calling and leading the turn).
Also avoid overplaying overcards, ppl really hate to fold here (and for good reason).
Maybe try to play more ABC without going fancy too often. Bet your hands which can be good, give up after turn if not improved (like AK); raise your good hands; fold your weak hands etc...
Hope we will see more hands in the future [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:49 PM
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How about something silly like this, is there any different ammount you'd guys bet or how would you play it differently...

Dealt to Sponger [ A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
TheSickle1 raises [$5].
lovetheflush folds.
blairaj folds.
APISCIONE folds.
MYS1122 calls [$4].
Sponger calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
MYS1122 checks.
Sponger bets [$8].
TheSickle1 calls [$8].
MYS1122 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Sponger bets [$25].
TheSickle1 calls [$25].
** Dealing River ** [ 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Sponger bets [$60].
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: Could I be a losing player at $200nl 6-max?

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little strange you went very aggro with AK and very passive with AA. I think that 3betting with AA is obligatory here (or calling and leading the turn).

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I very rarely 3-bet hands on the flop unless I've got something like Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on a Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] board.

I figure on that AA hand I'd just let them go nuts with something shitty if I'm going to end up all in anyways? Please tell me how stupid this is I guess...
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: Could I be a losing player at $200nl 6-max?

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raise to 8, what is this six business?

i play this more passively, dunno if im correct, but either way i dont have a problem getting it all in with relatively (in the big scheme) short stacks against a lag.

B

again... 6 is the devils number

against 2 opponents im not too excited to get big heat, i dont mind passive play. maybe a flop raise. im not as sure in this hand, but im not crazy about stacking here against 2 people.




addendum

dont just say "villain was dumb". that is not a read". "villain calls too much preflop and overplays one pair hands, though is fairly passive and doesnt bluff". now that is a read.

and stack sizes are kinda important.
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:54 PM
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How about something like this? I've just created a masive pot OOP with 1 pair....

(stack sizes cause I guess this is important)
Seat 4: Sponger ( $195 )
Seat 3: chinamanal ( $192.95 )

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Sponger [ J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
sixpack0224 calls [$2].
rush23 folds.
ninersbaby raises [$7].
chinamanal calls [$9].
Sponger calls [$8].
SA_Tiger folds.
sixpack0224 calls [$7].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Sponger bets [$15].
sixpack0224 folds.
ninersbaby folds.
chinamanal calls [$15].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
Sponger checks.
chinamanal bets [$60].
Sponger folds.
chinamanal does not show cards.
chinamanal wins $127
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: Could I be a losing player at $200nl 6-max?

flop= checkraise

if it gets checked around and that turn comes, and there is action, fold
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: Could I be a losing player at $200nl 6-max?

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dont just say "villain was dumb". that is not a read". "villain calls too much preflop and overplays one pair hands, though is fairly passive and doesnt bluff". now that is a read.

and stack sizes are kinda important.

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Well, I would tell you my read at the time if I could find the hands, somehow they weren't imported by PT, it basically involved him calling the flop and turn with a crap hand and then betting when checked to on a scary board, other guy folded and he showed his total garbage which wasn't even a draw.


The stack sizes can be inferred in the first hand, on the second hand, I have $200 and he has more than that.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:16 PM
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flop= checkraise

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Voltron, there must be sth to that... We attended the same school of NL or just read the same books ?

Best wishes
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:27 PM
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fwiw I've played ~20k hands at party, and was barely above break even 1-2 BB/100, I've played ~30k hands at UB and am at 6-7 BB/100 (don't know exactly because I have 2 different databases on 2 comptuers)
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:41 PM
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Read Harrington's books, improved my game 1000%. I went from being confused half the time to knowing the right play 90% of the time.

http://www.texasholdempoker-stats.com/thp_books.html

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What he said. HOH V1 rox.
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