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Old 08-04-2005, 02:53 AM
PokerBob PokerBob is offline
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The guy checked behind last to act when the ace hit. I'm sure the original raiser is afraid he has an ace.

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sarcasm will get you nowhere. why are you being a condescending prick? I will no longer bother you with my opinion.
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Old 08-04-2005, 02:56 AM
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Sorry, it's how I talk. I'm a sarcastic person. I didn't mean to be condescending but there's absolutely no chance he folds KK-JJ. The only way a better T is folding is if someone calls before him.
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Old 08-04-2005, 03:20 AM
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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, MP calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, MP calls.

River: (12.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, MP calls.

Final Pot: 21.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Qc 4h (flush, king high).
MP has 2c 2s (flush, king high).
Hero has 9s 9h (full house, nines full of sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins 21.50 BB. </font>
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Old 08-04-2005, 03:33 AM
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Please tell me at least one better hand that would fold to a river bet by me.

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JJ-KK. KT, QT, JT

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With the exception of JT and possibly QT...I have to disagree with this.
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Old 08-04-2005, 03:35 AM
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I would checkraise this flop. Sure, there are lots of turn cards we aren't going to like, but the pot is biiiig. In an unraised pot I like your line, but there's too much $ in this pot for me to play it like this - even with poor implied odds we are giving up too much IMO.

Unless you have a specific read, MPs flop bet does nearly nothing to distinguish his hand from his PFR standards, which are going to be pretty loose for an unkown. 2 callers before him...they could have overcards, any pair, whatever. I'm playing this flop more aggressively if I call preflop...but I don't call preflop here.

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Old 08-04-2005, 03:36 AM
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Please tell me at least one better hand that would fold to a river bet by me.

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JJ-KK. KT, QT, JT

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With the exception of JT and possibly QT...I have to disagree with this.

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I'm really, really not convinced that a better hand will fold, but I think any pair calls, and possibly even K high.
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Old 08-04-2005, 03:42 AM
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Please tell me at least one better hand that would fold to a river bet by me.

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JJ-KK. KT, QT, JT

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With the exception of JT and possibly QT...I have to disagree with this.

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I'm really, really not convinced that a better hand will fold, but I think any pair calls, and possibly even K high.

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I think many worse-pair hands will call, but they will be almost exclusively from the CO. If it were HU with MP i'd check to induce a bluff.

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Old 08-04-2005, 03:50 AM
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Please tell me at least one better hand that would fold to a river bet by me.

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JJ-KK. KT, QT, JT

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With the exception of JT and possibly QT...I have to disagree with this.

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I'm really, really not convinced that a better hand will fold, but I think any pair calls, and possibly even K high.

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Yeah I felt the only possible hands that might EVER fold is pretty much just JT, and I thought that was pushing it.
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Old 08-04-2005, 04:04 AM
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I think you can overcall the river here -- you have second pair in a sizable pot that no one has shown much interest in. I think rushing to put MP on KK-JJ is a mistake, it's almost certain no one has an ace, and CO is calling with any pair. Otherwise I like the line.
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