Site where cards run fairly even?

[dtbog]

How has no one mentioned PokerSpot!?!

Deposit with a credit-card, get a 100% bonus free! No questions asked!!!11

[gmanko]

Hold on a minute, just because the cards are random doesn't mean they're fair, only that you cannot predict the sequence of future occurences- and unlike some of the articles mentioned, not every crooked hand has to be as obvious as AA vs KK, it can be very subtle.

Imagine a hypothetical distribution in a heads-up match where there are 3 possible shuffles: AA vs. 44 (board is 94337), AK vs. A6o (board is 862A5), and AhQh vs 7s4s (board is Qs9s4h7h2s). It doesn't matter if the hand is chosen randomly or not, the good player (who in this case has very poor short-term memory, probably from all of the bad beats he is taking) will never stand a chance vs. a fish.

How do you think sites can keep giving out bonuses if they don't make it back on the rake? I can see a small initial deposit bonus to get you hooked, but if they keep giving 25, 50, 100% reloads there's no way they can make anything off the site.

Personally, the only sites I would even consider playing are ones that have no or very rare/small bonuses, to avoid this problem. There was one site I used to play at that had this policy, but sadly it has joined the frenzy as well, good luck trying to win a pot there anymore.

Before I stopped playing I even dropped back down to nearly the very lowest limit games, and it was still straight downhill (usually after a small win to get my hopes up).

I know I'm not the greatest poker player that ever lived, but there is no way that an experienced, knowledgeable player should lose in these games for any significant period of time - imagine a 10 handicap golfer playing putt-putt against 2nd graders for 5 bucks a hole.

Ever see those auditor's letters "certifying" randomness? It's a one-pager saying they analyzed some site-provided hand history logs. Similar companies reviewed Enron and Worldcom's financial stetaments, and didn't have a problem with them, either.

[theblitz]

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I suggest you add more to your bankroll and start playing on as many different sites as you can. You should be at least 4 tabling, or even 8+ tabling with each table located at a different site. This way when one site starts to go "crooked" it is corrected by the other sites who are still in balance.

You need to use the search function too. If you had searched "crooked sites" you will come up with tons of information and you would have noticed that all the pros on here advocate the strategy I outlined above.

Finally, if you are dealt AA you should be folding it 20% of the time. Why???!!! Simple. It will lose 20% of the time, so you don't want to be playing with it when it will lose you a lot of chips. This trick works for other hands as well. Your 72o (I know, I know...the worst hand in hold'em) DOES win every so often. You need to be playing it randomly because that hand CAN and DOES win chips.

Take my advice and run with it. You'll never look back. I started off like this because of the crooked sites at the .01/.02 tables. Now I sometimes play 100/200.

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I assume you aren't talking seriously.
At least I HOPE so.

[siccjay]

They are all out to get you, kill yourself now while you have a shred of dignity.

[theblitz]

Due to this problem I have decided to create a new poker site where the following rules will apply:

1. AA will NEVER lose

2. The best hand pre-flop will win unless the player folded

3. To make it clear that we are being fair all hands will be visible to all pre-flop. Also, the cards to be dealt on the flop, turn and river will be announced in advance.

4. If, due to some error, a leading hand loses then my site will re-imburse the loser + 50% for the physcological strain.

Only one caveat - we will be taking a 50% rake on every hand.

[theblitz]

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Even if everyone on the site played perfect poker, they'd all lose money!

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Actually, even in a B&M casino, if everyone played PERFECT poker then, yes, they would all lose.
This is simply because the rake takes money out of the game.
Playing perfect poker would mean that the money would be passed around and around between the players. This woul dhave to be over a long period of time - say 100,000 hands - but it would happen.

However, we all know that Blackjack is crooked. I mean, I won at Blackjack when I was in Vegas and others lost so I must be a friend of the owner!

[Tk79]

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Due to this problem I have decided to create a new poker site where the following rules will apply:

1. AA will NEVER lose

2. The best hand pre-flop will win unless the player folded

3. To make it clear that we are being fair all hands will be visible to all pre-flop. Also, the cards to be dealt on the flop, turn and river will be announced in advance.

4. If, due to some error, a leading hand loses then my site will re-imburse the loser + 50% for the physcological strain.

Only one caveat - we will be taking a 50% rake on every hand.

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I dont think you should allow checkraising either. It is underhanded and sneaky. Just bad for business.

[theblitz]

Just in case you weren't joking:

cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Kd Kh 1218616 71.17 486944 28.44 6744 0.39 0.714
Ac Th 486944 28.44 1218616 71.17 6744 0.39 0.286

In other words, over a quarter of the time you SHOULD lose. Of course, you KK have NEVER held up have they?

[theblitz]

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I dont think you should allow checkraising either. It is underhanded and sneaky. Just bad for business.

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Mmmm, forgot that one.
Of course, bluffing would not be allowed. That is plain cheating!

Since you can all see each other's cards you would think that bluffing would not be much use but sometimes a player might not notice he/she has the best hand.

[theblitz]

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Chip and a chair!

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Since you had 2 chips I must assume you also had 2 chairs!
No offense, but you could do with a diet! Maybe it is all those chips!
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