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Old 06-10-2005, 06:22 PM
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Burt Reynold leave because Burt find hotter chick.

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could you at least get your own name right? or are you speech-impediment burt reynolds?
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Old 06-10-2005, 06:29 PM
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She was a file clerk/college student.

She actually had an incredibly sexy body, huge but really high and well shaped knockers, and great legs too. Very pretty face, but not supermodel pretty. The body, when she was in shape, though, was an easy 10 for your average guy unless he had some kind of severe dislike of big boobs.

She could go up and down 20 or more pounds pretty quickly, and was Mexican, so put on a lot of fat in her upper back like lots of those girls do as soon as she started getting fat.

The outstanding thing about her overall though was her awful squawking and very loud voice, and that she never stopped talking. My version of hell would probably contain someone like that yapping non-stop. Also her total self-absorption. She would literally read candy bar wrappers and cereal box ingredient labels out loud to keep from stopping talking. She'd turn on t.v.'s and radios loud so she could shout even louder on top of them. I think she was absolutely scared shytless of herself. Any kind of quiet would practically make her panic.

She was hot, though. But jeez, after banging her, I don't know how any guy would be able to keep from running out of the room. That girl letting her body go was like relationship suicide.

One of those girls destined to go in cycles of guys getting quickly tired of them and dumping them after banging them for a while, without ever figuring out why that's always happening, or becoming someone actually worth staying with.
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Old 06-10-2005, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: Why do Men Leave Thier Wives?

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We do men leave their wives after being married for a long time? I had a discussion with some women who thought it was about sex. I think it is usually other things.

What do you think are the most common causes?


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1. Their wives let themselves get fat.
2. The wives cut their hair short and become "de-sexualized."
3. Their wives are more interested in their careers, the kids, etc.
4. Men want different poontang. Not necessarily prettier poontang, just different poontang. NEW poontang.

That's it in a nutshell.

Maybe if American women acted like most European women - by trying to keep the spark in the relationship alive, by realizing that sex is vitally important to men - and not considering marriage the "end of the road prize," American men would value their marriages more.

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A guy promises to love/honor/cherish for the rest of their lives then cheats/leaves and the reasons listed in this post (other than she cheated on me) all seem to boil down to "she let herself go" as detailed above...

What a bunch of crap! Us men need to take a little responsibility. We leave because we're bastards with no discipline or self control. We get fat and the women are supposed to still dig us, but if the women-folk "let themselves get fat" we leave. That's the most f-d up reasoning I've ever heard. For any guy that is using that as a legit excuse, let me ask this:
how much have you put on since your wedding day?
how much hair have you lost on top and grown on your ass/back

For the "she won't give it up as often" folks:
how often do you "court" your wife?
bring her flowers?
do whatever it was you did to get in her pants to start with?

If a guy leaves his wife because she got fat he's an absolute piece of crap! Marriage is hard work and if both parties don't put in the work then they end up strangers and roomates more than soulmates.

I know this is OOT and its not to be taken seriously, but the tone of this thread hasn't been mocking/joking/kidding - its been "women get married and let themselves go, that's why we leave/cheat" and people are serious about it... its total BS!

That is all
FishNChips
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Old 06-10-2005, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: Why do Men Leave Thier Wives?

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Because both parties think of marriage as the end point instead of the journey. they assume that the other will be at their beck and call and stop doing the things that made them fall in love in the first place. They stop trying to grow together, assuming that the together will be there, but, when the take stock at a later date, they both realize that the other person is a complete stranger.

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yep... marriage is work. Its a decision every day. And it can be the most rewarding work you'll ever do.
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:25 PM
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I think there are some very good answers here. My premise is that the majority of men will not leave their wife simply for the sake of sex. There are usually other things like nagging.

In essence, the plan a man signs up for is not the plan he gets. The plan slowly morphs over many years until it hits him over the head that his current situation sucks and he leaves.
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:38 PM
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We do men leave their wives after being married for a long time? I had a discussion with some women who thought it was about sex. I think it is usually other things.

What do you think are the most common causes?


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1. Their wives let themselves get fat.
2. The wives cut their hair short and become "de-sexualized."
3. Their wives are more interested in their careers, the kids, etc.
4. Men want different poontang. Not necessarily prettier poontang, just different poontang. NEW poontang.

That's it in a nutshell.

Maybe if American women acted like most European women - by trying to keep the spark in the relationship alive, by realizing that sex is vitally important to men - and not considering marriage the "end of the road prize," American men would value their marriages more.

[/ QUOTE ]

A guy promises to love/honor/cherish for the rest of their lives then cheats/leaves and the reasons listed in this post (other than she cheated on me) all seem to boil down to "she let herself go" as detailed above...

What a bunch of crap! Us men need to take a little responsibility. We leave because we're bastards with no discipline or self control. We get fat and the women are supposed to still dig us, but if the women-folk "let themselves get fat" we leave. That's the most f-d up reasoning I've ever heard. For any guy that is using that as a legit excuse, let me ask this:
how much have you put on since your wedding day?
how much hair have you lost on top and grown on your ass/back

For the "she won't give it up as often" folks:
how often do you "court" your wife?
bring her flowers?
do whatever it was you did to get in her pants to start with?

If a guy leaves his wife because she got fat he's an absolute piece of crap! Marriage is hard work and if both parties don't put in the work then they end up strangers and roomates more than soulmates.

I know this is OOT and its not to be taken seriously, but the tone of this thread hasn't been mocking/joking/kidding - its been "women get married and let themselves go, that's why we leave/cheat" and people are serious about it... its total BS!

That is all
FishNChips

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Men are extremely visually oriented and sex is very important to them.

There's not a woman on earth who doesn't know this.

Letting yourself become a fat pig is the most natural thing in the world, but lots of the greatest things in the world involve getting up off your fat, lazy, selfish ass(and this isn't a women-only thing) and making a little effort.

Even the effort itself is an attractive thing to see in others, whether male or female evaluating another a male or female. The lack of effort to improve oneself, or even worse, an obvious or even willful backsliding are exactly the opposite, no matter who's doing it and who's judging.

Relationships go both ways, and both partners owe it to the other to do their best to keep on an upward trajectory. Though we all have our ups and downs, nobody wants to be part of a sinking ship or a downward spiral in any fashion whatsoever. That's not what we sign up for in reaching out for relationships, much less forming the primary love/romance relationship in our lives, and it's not the way for either partner to address his responsibilities in that relationship.

Yes, like you note, a relationship is a JOB. It takes work. If you're not willing to do it, you don't honor the other person, yourself, or your relationship together. If you're not willing to do that work, you have essentially both the motivations and objectives, as well as the concrete resultant behavior, of a child. And you do not deserve an adult relationship. You give yourself a solid chance of not having one, or losing the one you've got, over time.

Imposing demands and setting standards is not only natural, it's inescapable; the only thing that could make it seem otherwise is the ability of people not to be truthful to themselves or others, or to swallow things they don't like and build up unstoppable, long-term, deep-seated resentments, which isn't exactly healthy.

Frankly, openly, and honestly expecting your partner to hold up their end of a relationship isn't cruel, it's laying it on the line in a way that both parties can talk about and see if they like, instead of behaving as if a relationship contract written down on a piece of paper, or building resentments and losing communication, is really the most productive and natural way to run a relationship. It isn't; only the most cowardly and irresponsible.

Are men cowards? Damn straight. They're total cowards, so they often get what they deserve, in a way. Both men and women have to be unafraid to communicate. If they don't get their needs satisfied with each other, the relationship will suffer, or they will go outside the relationship to fill those needs.

Seriously, from a practical standpoint if none other(and considering health, self-esteem, romantic and other standpoints, I can't imagine why their would be no other), it makes sense for any woman to keep in shape and know it's important.

All the social theorizing in the world isn't going to change human nature, or the nature of men. There's a huge implied presumption that people in general are "naturally" somehow supposed to mate for life and always be happy together. I'd contend it's highly unnatural, especially for men, and all the more so for economically successful men, and any relationship that even attempts to be long-term will have among its primary enablers the ability of each partner to fulfill the central needs and desires of the other.

For men, and this has never been less than blindingly obvious, one of those key needs and desires is sex. Women who think they're making wise relationship decisions by either letting themselves go or cutting back on the amount and frequency of sex with their partner are making a terrible mistake that all the lawyers in the world can't change. If you want a relationship of which sex is a primary constituent to stay strong, do the obvious thing, and do it unresentfully -- stay healthy and vigorous and sexy. Everyone deserves that in a partner, and has the obligation to provide it to theirs. A long-term, monogamous relationship is perhaps an unnatural thing, despite millenia of efforts to legislate them into being and other relationships out of existence, sometimes upon punishment of death. But the best way to keep it natural is to make it -- and yourself -- as attractive an option as possible.
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Old 06-11-2005, 12:28 AM
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Default FishNChips......For Gosh Sakes!

The Topic is: Why Do Men Leave Their Wives.
PLEASE Respond to the topic instead going off on your own rant.

Why don't you create a topic called, "Why Women Leave Their Husbands".
Personally I think you need to turn in your testicles because your manhood is in question. I suspect you watch "Oprah" everyday. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 06-11-2005, 02:45 AM
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Because they are assholes.
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Old 06-11-2005, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: FishNChips......For Gosh Sakes!

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The Topic is: Why Do Men Leave Their Wives.
PLEASE Respond to the topic instead going off on your own rant.

Why don't you create a topic called, "Why Women Leave Their Husbands".
Personally I think you need to turn in your testicles because your manhood is in question. I suspect you watch Dr. Phil everyday. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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FYP.

The reasons given true in many forms. Attraction for guys is different than attraction for women. Generally, guys are attracted to looks, women to security.

Another big reason for splitting that goes both ways is simply getting married too young. This is why the divorce rate drops significantly when people are married around age 27.

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Old 06-11-2005, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: FishNChips......For Gosh Sakes!

Go to an asian country and see the way an asian girl approachs marriage, 100% different then a westerner girl.

i realize that looks change, but often i will see some old hag who is absolutely fat and disgusting, and its hard to have to stand near her in the checkout isle. they rarely smile and wear cheap clothes and give off the smell of death.

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The Topic is: Why Do Men Leave Their Wives.
PLEASE Respond to the topic instead going off on your own rant.

Why don't you create a topic called, "Why Women Leave Their Husbands".
Personally I think you need to turn in your testicles because your manhood is in question. I suspect you watch Dr. Phil everyday. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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FYP.

The reasons given true in many forms. Attraction for guys is different than attraction for women. Generally, guys are attracted to looks, women to security.

Another big reason for splitting that goes both ways is simply getting married too young. This is why the divorce rate drops significantly when people are married around age 27.

b

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