Play Along...This One's Really Tough IMO

[ThePenguin]

Is it agreed we three-bet pre-flop? Raise SB's flop bet? Suppose P-Bob three-bets PF, gets one caller, and SB caps, does anyone raise the flop if SB bets out?

[Bizot]

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I am a fish.

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Don't feel bad I sucked a double gut shot with Jacks to beat Aces and a set of Tens... capped the whole way too.

><> 4 lyfe!

[mikeyvegas]

I only call the pf raise.

I raise the flop and call any raises.

I call on the turn looking to improve.

[RiverTheNuts]

3 bet PF... raise flop, if 3-bet call flop and then check/fold... if smoothcalled and checked to, check through and call a river bet on a non scary card, if you get raised on turn or river then dump it.

[DeeJ]

With 6 still in, there's no way I'm raising. Giving 13:1 I will be calling one, hoping there is no raise, calling one more but folding for 2 more (maybe not if I close the betting).
From the turn onwards I play the pot odds.

[GuyOnTilt]

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ok think of it this way...

the pot is 13 SB
to raise it costs 1 extra SB
you have plenty of equity

so you're paying 1 SB extra with lots of equity to make it easier to take down a pot 13 times the size of your investment

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This can't be Josh. Also, the consensus seemed to be 3-betting PF would've been better, which is wrong. Calling was correct.

GoT

[27offsooot]

I think raising the flop is clearly correct.

I don't understand why everyone wants to three bet PF. I scrolled all the way down to GoT's response to question the PF three bet. I don't think u have equity (although I'm sure someone can run Poker Stove), and u'll be inflating the pot, which won't allow u to protect nearly as well. Also, u're in perfect relative position to protect your hand on favorable flops and the size will be medium sized to allow u to do this on the flop by not re-raising PF. If u three-bet and it isn't capped, chances are that sb will check to u and u'll be betting into a lot of flops that u may be drawing to two outs with so many in. Then u'll be calling raises to spike your set b/c u have odds and spewing chips post-flop.

[oreogod]

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ok think of it this way...

the pot is 13 SB
to raise it costs 1 extra SB
you have plenty of equity

so you're paying 1 SB extra with lots of equity to make it easier to take down a pot 13 times the size of your investment

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This can't be Josh. Also, the consensus seemed to be 3-betting PF would've been better, which is wrong. Calling was correct.

GoT

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I was just going to say this. 3-betting is okay for a table with 6-8 ppl seeing the flop (or 5-8, something like that) -- no reads I just call the PF raise and raise the flop. I was going to say more, but just came across this on refresh:

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I think raising the flop is clearly correct.

I don't understand why everyone wants to three bet PF. I scrolled all the way down to GoT's response to question the PF three bet. I don't think u have equity (although I'm sure someone can run Poker Stove), and u'll be inflating the pot, which won't allow u to protect nearly as well. Also, u're in perfect relative position to protect your hand on favorable flops and the size will be medium sized to allow u to do this on the flop by not re-raising PF. If u three-bet and it isn't capped, chances are that sb will check to u and u'll be betting into a lot of flops that u may be drawing to two outs with so many in. Then u'll be calling raises to spike your set b/c u have odds and spewing chips post-flop.

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[Pedigree]

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3 bet PF... raise flop, if 3-bet call flop and then check/fold... if smoothcalled and checked to, check through and call a river bet on a non scary card, if you get raised on turn or river then dump it.

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Yep.

[QTip]

I'm not seeing the PF raise. What makes it so great that we've committed such a heinous error not 3 betting PF.