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#41
04-25-2005, 04:31 PM
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Re: AQ early facing re-raise
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If not, then I do think that pushing pre-flop is correct. [/ QUOTE ] See, I just don't agree in the slightest. Your hand is good enough that a push back could still mean hands that you've got dominated (A9s, AT, AJ, KQ). I think BB will push these often enough that I don't mind inducing a push. If someone has a pp, so be it, you're still getting the odds to call. [/ QUOTE ] Heh, this thread is the counterpoint to my snowman thread, where I'm in the villain's seat. I think you're getting at the same thing that curtains was trying to tell me: it's actually ok to raise, get re-raised all-in, and call. I tend to be afraid of that situation and push instead. [/ QUOTE ] Don't get me wrong. I don't think pushing all-in with AQ here is bad. It's not bad at all. I just think it's slightly less optimal than a 3BB raise. But I would probably push the whole thing if I had 11BB, maybe even 12, if they were getting jacked up in very soon. 
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#42
04-25-2005, 04:32 PM
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Re: AQ early facing re-raise
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[ QUOTE ] that's bad too...U might be on a weak streak. Ive been there often after suffering many bad beats etc...im afraid to be agressive with good holdings... [/ QUOTE ] Can't be the case here. I sat (unintentially) to his left at a table the other day and it SUCKED. Evey time I thought I might get a steal in, he pushed right before me. I couldn't believe he didn't get called down. [/ QUOTE ] Heh -- sorry about that -- I had no idea. However, he's actually correct. I've been amassing big stacks lately on the bubble, just to bust out before ITM. As a result, I've gotten a little tentative in certain situations. Must've just been having a good run at your table...
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#44
04-25-2005, 04:47 PM
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Re: AQ early facing re-raise
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so scott, what do you do here now, if you had to make this play again? [/ QUOTE ] Honestly? I think I play it the same. I don't really want to risk my entire stack for 75 chips, and I think pushing does that. If I had 100 less chips, I probably would push. I'm still not sure if I'm folding to an all-in from the BB. My thought when I played it was "fold," but now I think he might put me on a weaker hand and it might be worth calling, but I'm still really not sure (which might be another reason to push).
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#45
04-25-2005, 04:47 PM
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Re: AQ early facing re-raise
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[ QUOTE ] so scott, what do you do here now, if you had to make this play again? [/ QUOTE ] Honestly? I think I play it the same. I don't really want to risk my entire stack for 75 chips, and I think pushing does that. If I had 100 less chips, I probably would push. I'm still not sure if I'm folding to an all-in from the BB. My thought when I played it was "fold," but now I think he might put me on a weaker hand and it might be worth calling, but I'm still really not sure (which might be another reason to push). [/ QUOTE ] Raising to 150 in a 4 handed game with AQo and then folding for your last 500 is terrible IMO.
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#46
04-25-2005, 04:51 PM
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Re: AQ early facing re-raise
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] so scott, what do you do here now, if you had to make this play again? [/ QUOTE ] Honestly? I think I play it the same. I don't really want to risk my entire stack for 75 chips, and I think pushing does that. If I had 100 less chips, I probably would push. I'm still not sure if I'm folding to an all-in from the BB. My thought when I played it was "fold," but now I think he might put me on a weaker hand and it might be worth calling, but I'm still really not sure (which might be another reason to push). [/ QUOTE ] Raising to 150 in a 4 handed game with AQo and then folding for your last 500 is terrible IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Ugh -- put that way, I see what you mean. So, now I play it like the other side of the 88 hand in the other thread. I guess now I see why you say I shouldn't have been surprised to see ATs.
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#47
04-25-2005, 04:53 PM
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Re: AQ early facing re-raise
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[ QUOTE ] This raise with AQ after it is folded to you is good. I wouldn't raise if there are limpers, but otherwise it is good. Obviously you're calling the all in. [/ QUOTE ] If there are limpers, raising with AQ here should be automatic. [/ QUOTE ] Could you expand on this?
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#48
04-25-2005, 04:54 PM
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Re: AQ early facing re-raise
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[ QUOTE ] This raise with AQ after it is folded to you is good. I wouldn't raise if there are limpers, but otherwise it is good. Obviously you're calling the all in. [/ QUOTE ] If there are limpers, raising with AQ here should be automatic. [/ QUOTE ] yeah... I should have read the stacks. If there are limpers I'm pushing.
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#49
04-25-2005, 04:56 PM
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Re: AQ early facing re-raise
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] This raise with AQ after it is folded to you is good. I wouldn't raise if there are limpers, but otherwise it is good. Obviously you're calling the all in. [/ QUOTE ] If there are limpers, raising with AQ here should be automatic. [/ QUOTE ] Could you expand on this? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, your hand is very strong, the money in the pot will mean a lot to you if there are limpers, most of the time you will have stronger hands than the limpers, and sometimes they will fold hands that beat you like 22-77, thus you should raise.
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#50
04-25-2005, 05:02 PM
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Re: AQ early facing re-raise
I think it's pretty easy to play on a short stack, but how do you play it when you have 1200ish and other people have more and pushing is not really an option? That was the scenario I was thinking of when I said raise 3bb or limp behind limpers.
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