Tyson Vs. Ali

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tyson was far, far faster than foreman or ali.

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While Tyson's hand speed was faster than other heavyweights, Ali's hand speed was faster than Tyson's yet still.

Ali had better footwork. Ali had better reflexes. Ali was just more coordinated. And Ali was bigger than Tyson, and he defeated bigger beasts than Tyson.

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Correction: The guy is a full on nutjob.

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That's why they got him on the Zoloft, so he don't kill you motherfuckers.

NT

[EliteNinja]

I think Tyson would lose because he'd get disqualified for eating Ali's children.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

its kind of weird asking these types of questions because the difference in training and nutriion and such. people today are a lot faster and stronger than those of before and unless the older was significantly more skilled than the newer, no amount of skill edge could make up for the raw physical attributes and new technology.

for example, if the 27 yankees were to play a 7 game series agaisnt the '04 devil rays, the devil rays would probably sweep the yankees.

that said, i think ali would still win because ali really IS that much better than tyson, he'd still be faster than tyson and george formeman was equal and probably stronger in stregnth and punching power to tyson and ali beat him by outboxing him.

[A_C_Slater]

Would Ali lose to a Buster Douglas in his prime? Think about that one.


Ali would just sit back and let Tyson have a go at punching his body. Ali was invincible in the body area. Tyson would be dead tired by the 8th round if not sooner and then Ali would pwn him.

Ali in nine.

What about Tyson vs. Frasier?

That one is more interesting I think.

[Clarkmeister]

The difference between Ali's prime and Tysons is like 15 years. Advances in the stuff you mention just wasn't *that* significant in that timeframe.

[Clarkmeister]

"Would Ali lose to a Buster Douglas in his prime?"

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[Chris Daddy Cool]

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The difference between Ali's prime and Tysons is like 15 years. Advances in the stuff you mention just wasn't *that* significant in that timeframe.

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yea i realized that when i wrote it, but i did in the end say that ali would win anyways! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

btw, what do you think of the yankees vs devil rays comment? because i think that would apply there.

[DesertCat]

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Both in their prime. Who wins?

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1990 Feb. 11 -- James Douglas, KO by 10
1996 Nov. 9 -- Evander Holyfield, TKO by 11
1997 June 28 -- Evander Holyfield, L DQ 3
2002 June 8 -- Lennox Lewis, KO by 8
2004 July 30 -- Danny Williams, Louisville, KY, KO by 4

It can be argued that Mike Tyson was never much of a boxer. He has a suspect chin, poor defense and no heart. He was just a bully with a big punch, whenever he couldn't knock someone out in the early rounds he would get tired and just quit.

[Clarkmeister]

I think the greats generally transcend eras, with a possible exception for some football positions.

That said, I'm inclined to take the Rays, but I don't think its as open and shut as you do assuming both teams would play a full season under "common knowledge/rules" to acclimate prior to the 7 game series.