If you could control education in the US... - Page 5

turnipmonster · #41 02-07-2005, 02:31 PM

I would pay teachers nationwide a competitive salary.

--turnipmonster

jakethebake · #42 02-07-2005, 02:33 PM

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I would pay teachers nationwide a competitive salary.
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What the heck does that mean?

GuyOnTilt · #43 02-07-2005, 02:33 PM

I would pay teachers nationwide a competitive salary.

Would this mean incrasing taxation for public education significantly?

GoT

Patrick del Poker Grande · #44 02-07-2005, 02:33 PM

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This is definitely a good start. However, you have to make sure you're not just throwing money at it. If you just up the pay in the same system, you'll have the same results (maybe marginally better due to attracting 'better' people) but with a higher bill. They have to be good - pay them on merit and pay them well.

GuyOnTilt · #45 02-07-2005, 02:36 PM

FWIW, I went to private schools growing up and my instructors were paid ~the same as public school teachers, and in some cases less. The quality of education was just not even comprabale though. I don't think throwing money at the problem is the solution.

GoT

jakethebake · #46 02-07-2005, 02:36 PM

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Would this mean incrasing taxation for public education significantly? GoT

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Probably not if they started using all the public education funding efficiently. Yea. Good luck with that. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

BeerMoney · #47 02-07-2005, 02:41 PM

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FWIW, I went to private schools growing up and my instructors were paid ~the same as public school teachers, and in some cases less. The quality of education was just not even comprabale though. I don't think throwing money at the problem is the solution.

GoT

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I agree with this GOT. What do you think made your education better? That is, I'm not asking you to quantify it being better, but how did it get to that point.. What was the motivation/ method for delivering a better product.

turnipmonster · #48 02-07-2005, 02:47 PM

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The quality of education was just not even comprabale though.

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just out of curiousity, how do you know? I don't necessarily disagree, but the quality of education in public schools varies quite radically depending on the region.

--turnipmonster

Patrick del Poker Grande · #49 02-07-2005, 02:48 PM

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FWIW, I went to private schools growing up and my instructors were paid ~the same as public school teachers, and in some cases less. The quality of education was just not even comprabale though. I don't think throwing money at the problem is the solution.

GoT

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I agree with this GOT. What do you think made your education better? That is, I'm not asking you to quantify it being better, but how did it get to that point.. What was the motivation/ method for delivering a better product.

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His private school was probably able to make better HR decisions and hire/fire/pay/promote based on merit.

turnipmonster · #50 02-07-2005, 02:53 PM

so, in some states/areas public school teachers get paid well. in other areas, they don't. I would make an effort to establish some sort of base standard of pay across the board, so that phds in ny aren't making 90k and phds in nc 35k (those aren't exact figures).

at my old high school, it's very hard for them to get and keep computer science teachers. the reason is the pay is terrible in NC public schools, and there is not really a lot of incentive for someone capable of teaching CS to enter in that profession. the pay is terrible, the raises small, and it's a very stressful job.

--turnipmonster