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Old 02-05-2005, 11:34 PM
Phoenix1010 Phoenix1010 is offline
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MVP is not the best player. James is the best player. Nash is the MVP. It was made clear when he was out. VERY CLEAR.

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Bingo.
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:35 PM
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I'm not sure if you are serious. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Amarie Stoudemire, Shawn Marion, Quenten Richardson, Joe Johnson, oh yeah and this other guy named Amarie Stoudemire. This line-up is disgusting with or without Nash.

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The only differences in that lineup from last year are Nash and Q. Why the turnaround?
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:36 PM
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Unfortunately, I believe this to be an academic argument.

Shaq has been the MVP and will probably be the MVP until he retires.

But it wouldn't be "fair" to give it to him every year.

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Old 02-05-2005, 11:37 PM
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The only differences in that lineup from last year are Nash and Q. Why the turnaround?

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We have a winner.
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:39 PM
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Unfortunately, I believe this to be an academic argument.

Shaq has been the MVP and will probably be the MVP until he retires.

But it wouldn't be "fair" to give it to him every year.

*DISCLAIMER*
I'm not a Shaq or Heat fan.

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I have to grudgingly agree. however, I think Lebron will overtake him as early as two years from now, if not next year.
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:40 PM
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Unfortunately, I believe this to be an academic argument.

Shaq has been the MVP and will probably be the MVP until he retires.

But it wouldn't be "fair" to give it to him every year.

*DISCLAIMER*
I'm not a Shaq or Heat fan.

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That's the truth
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:40 PM
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The only differences in that lineup from last year are Nash and Q. Why the turnaround?

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We have a winner.

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It is clearly all about the Quentin Richardson factor.
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:43 PM
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The same reason Lebron has played so much better this year, experience. Stoudemire has become a ton better over his three years, from 12 ppg to close to 30. Johnson has struggled but is also getting comfortable. Marion hasn't changed much from what I've seen. If I were to vote I would go with Lebron. Nash has only started playing at such great levels since he came to Pheonix from Dallas. In Dallas he did't average nearly as many aps. He has a team this year who can put the ball away down low. This is my opinion and it stands [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:45 PM
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Nash has only started playing at such great levels since he came to Pheonix from Dallas. In Dallas he did't average nearly as many aps.

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HUH?!!?!?

I'm fairly sure he was first or second in APG last year.
He led that category most of the year.
I hope you aren't somehow arguing that this year he's first, "but with slightly better stats".

The only reason Nash seems to be better now that he isn't in Dallas is because of the different styles of the teams.
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:48 PM
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He is averaging 3 more per game this year. I just don't get why he wasn't more heavily considered for MVP last year as well if this is the case.
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