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Old 11-10-2004, 02:06 PM
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Man are you thick.

Have you read ANY of the responses in this thread. Your circular reasoning hasn't worked with ANYBODY. Some people chose to agree with you that what you do is not a big deal. But a lot chose not to. Mainly because your, "the world just needs to lighten up" arguement will NEVER be justification for poking fun using racial slurs or slander.

If in your small world it is fine to do this type of thing then so be it. Judging by your myoptic responses I'm pretty sure that no one here is going to have any hope of changing your mind . . . so I'm not even going to try. But if you want to post here and ask for peoples opinions (which you say you did), you should at least be open to fact that in other people's eyes YOU may be wrong. Not doing so (being open), which is what I believe is the case with you, is just wasting others time.


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Ah, I see you're Canadian, eh? Yeah, I learned all about YOUR kind by watching the South Park movie. *smirk*

No, I see your point and that of others. Some people don't take kindly to such things, I can definetely see how some would look at it as a racial thing. I don't mean it to be a put-down to asians at all, if I had something against asians then I would use something much harsher.

I'll go and crack jew jokes on myself, and jokes about third-world nations on my buddy from Nicaragua, etc. But my point is that there's a chat-blocking feature, so I still think if you don't like what someone is writing just block their chat and be done with it. Others at the table might not mind it and those people who cry are trying to impose their views of what speech is and isn't acceptable upon others.

Yeah, I guess I am thick. Fight tha' powa?
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Old 11-10-2004, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: would you behave this way in live games?

Ok, so I think you understood my point about live vs online. We both agree that you wouldn't do this among strangers in a casino poker room. So again, why do you behave this way online? Lot of it has to do with the fact that there are no immediate consequences to our behavior online because you are hidden behind an anonymous identity. If your home address was readily available behind your online avatar, I doubt that you would do this on a regular basis.

People that read your routine in the chat box understand this psychology and see it has a cowardly and idiotic behavior. Some will speak out, less because you routine offends them, but more because they see a cowardly behavior and want to get you to realize what you're doing is stupid.

That's how I see it, but if you get enjoyment out of it, then I can't say that it is wrong for you.
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Old 11-10-2004, 02:11 PM
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Ok, so I think you understood my point about live vs online. We both agree that you wouldn't do this among strangers in a casino poker room. So again, why do you behave this way online? Lot of it has to do with the fact that there are no immediate consequences to our behavior online because you are hidden behind an anonymous identity. If your home address was readily available behind your online avatar, I doubt that you would do this on a regular basis.

People that read your routine in the chat box understand this psychology and see it has a cowardly and idiotic behavior. Some will speak out, less because you routine offends them, but more because they see a cowardly behavior and want to get you to realize what you're doing is stupid.

That's how I see it, but if you get enjoyment out of it, then I can't say that it is wrong for you.

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In a live game people can't "block" my chat. I understand your belief that it's me being a coward because I'm anonymous online. But it's just that I view online differently than live games, since the online game you have an avatar representing you.

People will tend to put something that fits their personality. I'm just trying to have fun and don't care for the easily offended. I think online things need to be taken more lightly. If I was in a live game and was wearing the stereotypical buck-teeth and saying "mista solly prease!" and squinting my eyes, that would be another thing.

But the character I'm imitating is from mainstream television. If it's ok to air on TV why isn't it ok for an online characterization?
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Old 11-10-2004, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: would you behave this way in live games?

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In a live game people can't "block" my chat.

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Isn't chat an all or nothing thing at some sites? If so, you are depriving others of using chat for possibly more useful purposes. At such sites, your chat should be restricted.
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Old 11-10-2004, 02:19 PM
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Thank you. Being from the upper mid-west (MN) and currently residing in the south (GA) and having used "vis-a-vis" most of my life (a couple of decades longer than yours and feeling every year of it) without ever thinking that it was anything other than standard speech, I couldn't have said it any better.

BTW, grandgnu, though it doesn't add or mean anything to the underlying substance of this thread (with which I am hereby done), "ipso facto" is a common phrase in my professional lexicon. You might want to look it up sometime.
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Old 11-10-2004, 02:22 PM
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Thank you. Being from the upper mid-west (MN) and currently residing in the south (GA) and having used "vis-a-vis" most of my life (a couple of decades longer than yours and feeling every year of it) without ever thinking that it was anything other than standard speech, I couldn't have said it any better.

BTW, grandgnu, though it doesn't add or mean anything to the underlying substance of this thread (with which I am hereby done), "ipso facto" is a common phrase in my professional lexicon. You might want to look it up sometime.

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Nah, I'll stick with "Horry Morry Mista!!! That Was CLAAAZZZYYY!"

At least you haven't hit on my one online pet peeve. People who type "your" when they should be using "you're". Grrrr that gets my goat mistas!
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Old 11-10-2004, 02:22 PM
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In a live game people can't "block" my chat.

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Isn't chat an all or nothing thing at some sites? If so, you are depriving others of using chat for possibly more useful purposes. At such sites, your chat should be restricted.

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This applies to PokerStars and you can block individuals chat and still get chat from everyone else, so again, don't see the problem in my case.
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Old 11-10-2004, 02:58 PM
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Ok, I see your point about you playing an online character. And you are having fun and hope to lighten up the online atmosphere by doing this. So then why don't you do this in a live game? Wouldn't you be providing entertainment to the others at the table? I think you would agree with me that this wouldn't be entertainment, but more of an annoyance.

You know if you did this in a poker room, you will be lucky if you just got kicked out. So the fact that you do this online, when you wouldn't have the nerves to do it live, upsets your listeners, again, less because it is seen as racial, but I think more because they see a cowardly behavior.

Next... a point about being funny with your routine... The first few times maybe funny, but if I continued to see it, it would just get plain old preditable and just stupid. I'm not a fan of political correctness either, but your argument that you do this to be funny... I just don't see it. If such thing as political correctness didn't exist in the real world, would you then pull this routine with a mask over your face in a live game? You would still not do it because even with the question of political correctness out of the picture, you know that eventually the mask will come off and people will know who the real person was that just did that whole not-so-funny routine.

Lastly, your point about not having the ability to shut your chat off in a live game. In a live game, if you did this, people will most likely just get up and go to another table. While getting up, they'll probably give an unapproving shake of their head, letting you know how they feel. In an online setting, if they shut you off, they've blocked you, but you don't know that you've been blocked. They want you to know, so they will verablize the unapproving shake of the head that a live person would have given you, before perhaps eventually shutting you off.
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Old 11-10-2004, 03:05 PM
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Ok, I see your point about you playing an online character. And you are having fun and hope to lighten up the online atmosphere by doing this. So then why don't you do this in a live game? Wouldn't you be providing entertainment to the others at the table? I think you would agree with me that this wouldn't be entertainment, but more of an annoyance.

You know if you did this in a poker room, you will be lucky if you just got kicked out. So the fact that you do this online, when you wouldn't have the nerves to do it live, upsets your listeners, again, less because it is seen as racial, but I think more because they see a cowardly behavior.

Next... a point about being funny with your routine... The first few times maybe funny, but if I continued to see it, it would just get plain old preditable and just stupid. I'm not a fan of political correctness either, but your argument that you do this to be funny... I just don't see it. If such thing as political correctness didn't exist in the real world, would you then pull this routine with a mask over your face in a live game? You would still not do it because even with the question of political correctness out of the picture, you know that eventually the mask will come off and people will know who the real person was that just did that whole not-so-funny routine.

Lastly, your point about not having the ability to shut your chat off in a live game. In a live game, if you did this, people will most likely just get up and go to another table. While getting up, they'll probably give an unapproving shake of their head, letting you know how they feel. In an online setting, if they shut you off, they've blocked you, but you don't know that you've been blocked. They want you to know, so they will verablize the unapproving shake of the head that a live person would have given you, before perhaps eventually shutting you off.

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Actually, the people online are usually very happy to inform me that they're blocking my chat. Ah well, I still think it's enjoyable and usually either get the room "ruving me" or they all hate me or "ruv me wrong time".

Gonna have to get myself a mask for next time I "pray rive" mwuah-ha-h-ah-ah-aha-ha!
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Old 11-10-2004, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: would you behave this way in live games?

Just think of this way...

You have every right to act like an idiot and say whatever you want, no matter how non-sensical it may be...

Other players have the right to either ignore you or report your chat to the site...

The site has a right to ban you if they determine you are bad for their business...

Everybody wins.
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