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Old 06-30-2005, 04:18 PM
Abednego Abednego is offline
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I would also like to add that the topic is of no concern whatsoever to anybody who doesn't comprehend sin and the need for a saviour. I think if one was honest with himself he would have to admit unequivacally that by whatever standard he defines what it means to be righteousness - he falls short - he does not meet it - he is not that. It is also interesting that some believe the standard is a matter of personal preference. This just cannot be. But at any rate, I don't think any honest person can say they have never done wrong. How these people deny the need for a saviour I find puzzling.
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Old 06-30-2005, 04:19 PM
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I think you missed my point
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Old 06-30-2005, 04:27 PM
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I think you missed my point

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I did indeed! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
However, how does the complexity analogy provide any proof?
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Old 06-30-2005, 04:28 PM
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I know of two schools at which SIGNIFICANTLY larger games are spread.

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OK. What are the other 98?
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Old 06-30-2005, 04:40 PM
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OK. What are the other 98?

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When I said I know of two, I was speaking only the Ivys.

This translates to: There are three schools in the Ivy league that I have SOME knowledge about in terms of what games are spread. Cornell is third of those three in terms of what is considered a big game.


There is very rarely a game spread at Cornell that has an average buyin of more than 10% of what I normally buyin for online (of course, multitabling is a large factor here), and I am FAR from a high roller on these boards.


Just to put things in perspective: Smiley told me that when UMass (he goes to a close school) players get together, you find yourself playing with a number kids who are making > $100/hour. This isnt true at Cornell.
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Old 06-30-2005, 04:52 PM
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The evidence of the creation is proof of a creator. If you don't believe this you have what is termed the materialist view. That view also is based on faith .... just not biblical faith.
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Old 06-30-2005, 05:01 PM
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Elaborate, please.

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I assure you that, since I've mentioned this several times on these boards, I will one day elaborate.

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Weak.
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Old 06-30-2005, 05:03 PM
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"This is also my stance. If Christians accurately portray their God, then I would be horribly dismayed. The idea that non-beleivers are punished, despite any concrete evidence of a God at all, horrifies me."

It horrifies Christians too. So they try to wiggle out of it. Pair the Board and BluffTHIS do it by saying that those who are truly convinced there is a lack of evidence, and lead an otherwise righteous life, will get a pass. NOT READY wiggles out by saying that there is in fact overwhelming evidence ("just look around you") and those who deny it, do it as an excuse to lead naughty lives.

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I'm not trying to wiggle out of anything. I am just stating the beliefs of my church, and which is based on what God has said in his word. God gave the wiggle room, not me. And if I did believe that God did not do so and somehow lots of people would be condemned without a chance to accept, then I would just say so, regardless of whether it seemed to me to be harsh.
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Old 06-30-2005, 05:04 PM
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you have what is termed the materialist view. That view also is based on faith .... just not biblical faith.

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Why must a materialist view be based on faith?
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Old 06-30-2005, 05:09 PM
CallMeIshmael CallMeIshmael is offline
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Elaborate, please.

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I assure you that, since I've mentioned this several times on these boards, I will one day elaborate.

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Weak.

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If you're willing to give me 3 days of EV, I'll gladly have it posted within the next three days.
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