Tipping dilemma...please help

[Garland]

I have to admit feeling embarrassed and insulted by the dealer's actions, but I decided to wait it out for a few hours (i.e. after I was done playing) before making any hasty decisions I would regret. Most actions done right after the fact may be driven more by emotion and revenge rather than logic and justice.

Other thoughts that roamed my head: Would being viewed as a cheap-tight player affect how others played as a poster mentioned? Maybe, but I feel the patrons here are too engrossed into gambling and playing their own cards to pay attention and stop giving me action. However, some of the tighter more observant players might give less action. I'm not making the majority of money from them anyways. Perhaps something for the psychology forum...

Some poster mentioned saving the tips and giving it to the next dealer and making it audible that the former dealer didn't want them. My actual original plan was to save the $3 to $4 dollars rejected by the dealer for the floorman when I was done while expressing my displeasure at the dealer's actions. This particular floorman always takes my calls, puts my name on the board as a call-in so I don't have to wait as long and takes good care of me and everyone else. I didn't have the opportunity to do this as the particular floorman's shift was finished by the time I was done.

Then I considered if going to the floor person would do anything. The important thing to make sure is despite fixing an improper attitude is to maintain professionalism from all involved. I don’t want the dealer to hold a grudge and “accidentally” miscount an all-in stack in my opponent’s favor or do anything to endanger the integrity of the game. This is all I ask for.

In the end I decided while the dealer's conduct was somewhat unprofessional, he didn't do anything I would consider reprehensible. He made it clear that he doesn’t want my tips, so why should I be so bothered by it? My little tip angered him, but he was professional and fair in the two downs following the incident. The correct answer is (d) ignore the situation and stop tipping this dealer. This is what I did that night, and what I’ll do from now on.

Thanks for all the input by everyone. I truly appreciate it.

Garland

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I personally dont let people sh1t on me. Id have asked what the problem was, then I would have stood up and called fr the floor, trying to bring as much attention to the situation as possible.Ask the floor how much you have to tip for a pot, and how much you are supposed to tip for a big pot, when he explains that there is no minimum, tell him the dealer was indicationg to you that there is.
You did nothing wrong, you gave the guy 2 dollars for dealing out a few cards over a 3 minute span of time. If he wanted to be a d1ck to you, Id return the favor and see if I could get him in trouble

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I wait until the dealer pushes, then I talk to the shift manager about it.

There's one dealer at the Borgata (a casino where I have very good relationships with many of the dealers) who I just take an absent button for now. Life's too short.

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[Garland]

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There's one dealer at the Borgata (a casino where I have very good relationships with many of the dealers) who I just take an absent button for now. Life's too short.

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I also contemplated just sitting out for this one dealer, but it's bad to miss out on half an hour of great action every several hours. In addition, I have to pay $6 per half hour time regardless if I'm present or not. So...

Garland

[Randy_Refeld]

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There's one dealer at the Borgata (a casino where I have very good relationships with many of the dealers) who I just take an absent button for now. Life's too short.

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I also contemplated just sitting out for this one dealer, but it's bad to miss out on half an hour of great action every several hours. In addition, I have to pay $6 per half hour time regardless if I'm present or not. So...

Garland

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I would not do this. You are out the $6 and you jsut helped the dealer out a lot. He gets to deal a game short one player (maybe worth and extra hand in his down, more money for him), and it is more likely that one of the $5 tippers wins the pot. Nothing would make that sort of greedy dealer happier than for you to sit out. He might not realize it, but he is better off if you sit out his down than if you leave the game completely.

[yellowjack]

This dealer is a doofus, I'm sure a poster who deals (eg. Photoc) can vouch.

Those kind of pots are only once per night, or maybe a week. So you were only going to tip him $2 instead of maybe $6? There's only a $4 difference. The dealer could easily make that up by dealing a little more quickly in the next hour or so.

Another poster stated that the dealer just did his job and dealt everyone two cards then put up 5. That is absolutely correct imo.

dealers should not be tipped at all. That huge rake bag is enough payment, it's the casino that is screwing it's employee by not paying them part of the huge rake bag not you.

I will not change my view on this so don't bother telling me why tipping is right