Is There Any Hope For REAL Poker (i.e. Hold Em Is Killing Us)

[The Dude]

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Do you really believe one can gain a greater edge in Limit Hold 'Em than in a game like 7-card stud?

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He said you can have a better edge in NL Hold 'Em than in a game like 7-card stud.

[grandgnu]

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Do you really believe one can gain a greater edge in Limit Hold 'Em than in a game like 7-card stud?

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He said you can have a better edge in NL Hold 'Em than in a game like 7-card stud.

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You are correct, my mistake

[The Dude]

BTW, the unstated assumption is that it is a deep-stack game. For most restricted buy-in games, this is not true.

[ceskylev]

Heh... a girl taught me to play. First she smacked me when I thought that a full house beat four-of-a-kind. Then she told me who David Sklansky is.

I've got a bit more of a clue these days...

[schwza]

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Hey, you got the wrong guy, man. Nobody calls me 'Lebowski,' I'm 'The Dude.'

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hahahahahaha

[Mr. Graff]

Would Duder, His Dudeness or El Duderino be OK?

[tylerdurden]

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Would Duder, His Dudeness or El Duderino be OK?

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I'm not into that whole "brevity" thing.

[Student]

I appreciate your insights concerning the following:

"I actually enjoy 15/30 much more because of the skill level but the profit is much higher at 10/20 and sometimes a goldmine on the 6/12 table."

Being a beginner, with only about 1,400 hands of NL HE played, I'd read again and again that folks seemed to graduate from level to level, and then stay stuck at a certain level for a long time. Unfortunately, though they'd been profitable at all lower levels, now they could barely hold their head above water. And I'd also heard about the exceedingly low profit levels at the higher levels, perhaps 1 BB/100 for example.

So I'd asked a friend what he thought the optimum profit level might be. Your remarks indicate, at least for you personally, you could scratch the 15/30, sometimes scratch the 10/20, and find greatest cash profits at 6/12 on occasion. That's what my intuition suggested!

If you'd like to elaborate on tradeoffs for other players, including aspiring players like myself, relating to choice of levels based on maximizing cash profits, rather than other intangibles, I'd applaud!

Dave

[Student]

Gee, I live in Albuquerque, NM, which has 5 competing Indian Casinos within 25 miles! Yet I've decided I want to play internet NL HE.

Your plight is magnified by the 100 miles distance from a live casino, but it's especially hurt by your reluctance to adapt to online internet casinos. Your plight would vanish if you would simply get onboard internet poker!

I play at PokerStars, and they will have thousands of tables operating simultaneously at any one time. Indeed many of these tables are freeplay games, but that is not a shortcoming of PokerStars; it's something they should be complimented about! Being a beginner at poker, I did freeplay for a few weeks, and now I've played 1,400 hands of 1/2 cents NL HE. I'll play at this level until I start winning, and so far I'm down $7.00. To go to the 5/10 cents game (the next level at PokerStars), I need to be ahead by $20 at 1/2 cents.

I say this because you too could adjust to internet poker. Just as your 7 card stud game is very different from NL HE, limit HE is very different from NL HE, and internet casinos are very different than physical casinos. Hence, each of these transitions requires a kind arena, and the internet casinos are that!

Certainly not facing real people, except in as much as they express themselves in their betting and not betting, makes the games very different. But your plight won't go away by simply telling about it; it can be dealt with if you take the bull by the horns, rather than bringing the bull to the masses, as you're doing in this forum. I say this to awaken you to reality, rather than as an indictment! I find this thread to be entertaining, but my advise is intended to eliminate your true plight. Have fun, and be profitable!

Dave

[grandgnu]

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Gee, I live in Albuquerque, NM, which has 5 competing Indian Casinos within 25 miles! Yet I've decided I want to play internet NL HE.

Your plight is magnified by the 100 miles distance from a live casino, but it's especially hurt by your reluctance to adapt to online internet casinos. Your plight would vanish if you would simply get onboard internet poker!

I play at PokerStars, and they will have thousands of tables operating simultaneously at any one time. Indeed many of these tables are freeplay games, but that is not a shortcoming of PokerStars; it's something they should be complimented about! Being a beginner at poker, I did freeplay for a few weeks, and now I've played 1,400 hands of 1/2 cents NL HE. I'll play at this level until I start winning, and so far I'm down $7.00. To go to the 5/10 cents game (the next level at PokerStars), I need to be ahead by $20 at 1/2 cents.

I say this because you too could adjust to internet poker. Just as your 7 card stud game is very different from NL HE, limit HE is very different from NL HE, and internet casinos are very different than physical casinos. Hence, each of these transitions requires a kind arena, and the internet casinos are that!

Certainly not facing real people, except in as much as they express themselves in their betting and not betting, makes the games very different. But your plight won't go away by simply telling about it; it can be dealt with if you take the bull by the horns, rather than bringing the bull to the masses, as you're doing in this forum. I say this to awaken you to reality, rather than as an indictment! I find this thread to be entertaining, but my advise is intended to eliminate your true plight. Have fun, and be profitable!

Dave

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Dude, don't you know internet poker is rigged? Geesh! [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]