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Old 06-22-2005, 05:56 AM
tablecop tablecop is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

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The question isn't what are his overall stats. The question is what are his results since May 16th.

- Andrew

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according to the HH datamining service @ pokerhandhistories his resuts during may are:

hands: 4085
VPIP: 29.99
PFR: 18.14
WSD: 45.78%
W$SD: 48.64% (keys are here to his play imo since he got a massive increase in WSD without dropping W$SD by a proportional amount...my #s are like 32% and 58% respectively)

W$WSF: 40.65% (this is also huge, mine is 42% and he plays almost 2x as many hands)

and he never folds his blinds...he folds bb to steal 28.74% of the time over this sample.

results: 2.03bb/100 ... (st. dev = 24.920bb/100....mine is 15bb/100)

-Barron

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same dataset filtered for after may 16th

788 hands -2.94BB/100
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:07 AM
YoureToast YoureToast is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

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The W$SD figure here is what is so amazing. How is it possible to show down such a high percentage of winners when he is starting with average hands? That is the piece I cant understand and seems to only be able to be explained by luck. But how can luck continue for the same guy?

I can buy the part about running people over leading to a good win rate. But showing down winners? how can that be?

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His W$SD number is about 8-10% lower than mine -- it is not so amazing, especially considering he only goes to showdown less than 50% of the time. You can have a very high W$SD number if you play lots of hands if you know when you're beat. Luck has nothing (or very little) to do with why DERB is a big winner.
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Old 06-22-2005, 12:47 PM
droidboy droidboy is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

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according to the HH datamining service @ pokerhandhistories his resuts during may are:

results: 2.03bb/100 ... (st. dev = 24.920bb/100....mine is 15bb/100)

-Barron

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same dataset filtered for after may 16th

788 hands -2.94BB/100

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Thanks for coming forward with some data. A sample of 788 hands from May 16-31 really doesn't say much. The 4000 or so hands that Dcifrths gave is a bit better, but still well below anything which would give reasonable confidence intervals.

So, I ask again.

Is there anyone out there that has a reasonable number of hands on this fellow since May 16th?

- Andrew

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Old 06-22-2005, 12:50 PM
dbecham dbecham is offline
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Default Re: lurker request; DERB update!

what limits and what site is derb playing these days.
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:09 PM
dbecham dbecham is offline
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no offense to anyone out there but is DERB really a chick?
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:09 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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he likely hasn't played a "reasonable" # of hands since may 16th.

-Barron
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:23 PM
droidboy droidboy is offline
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It only takes about 10K or so to get a rough indication of whether a player is a winner. I'd be very surprised if he hasn't played that many hands. Now, it's certainly possible that no one has that many hands in their database.

Has anyone considered asking him? I'd wager he makes quite a bit more than the typical 2+2 nitboy.

- Andrew

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Old 06-22-2005, 02:46 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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It only takes about 10K or so to get a rough indication of whether a player is a winner. I'd be very surprised if he hasn't played that many hands. Now, it's certainly possible that no one has that many hands in their database.

Has anyone considered asking him? I'd wager he makes quite a bit more than the typical 2+2 nitboy.

- Andrew

www.pokerstove.com

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you'd be right. and he makes WAYYYYYYYYY more than any 2p2 nitboy. the best player, running the best on this board doesn't make as much over such a long stretch.

-Barron
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:13 PM
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I'd wager he makes quite a bit more than the typical 2+2 nitboy.


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you'd be right. and he makes WAYYYYYYYYY more than any 2p2 nitboy. the best player, running the best on this board doesn't make as much over such a long stretch.

-Barron

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What are you talking about? I said the typical 2+2 nitboy. I never said all 2+2 nitboys. But kudos to you for your lack of reading comprehension.

Keep us posted on how your "fish" is doing.

- Andrew

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Old 06-22-2005, 03:40 PM
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someone has a dog in this fight [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].
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