Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > General Gambling > Psychology
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-07-2005, 02:54 PM
guppie guppie is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: California
Posts: 22
Default Are you giving away IT skills?

I get the impression that you are doing IT work for family and friends for free. I used to have that problem until I printed business cards. When friends and relatives called for IT help, I told them I was now in business and charging $100/hr but would be willing to give them a discount at $50/hr.

Most of the requests for help stopped and that was OK since that was my main goal. But some of them called and were happy to pay my fee. My brother-in-law paid me more than I charged him because he was so grateful for the help. Some even refered me to others and before I knew it, I really was in business as an IT tech.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-08-2005, 01:38 AM
DarkForceRising DarkForceRising is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Gaybetting donks- Donkbetting gays
Posts: 499
Default Re: Look Mom/Dad I won 12K

You don't need your parents' guidance, AceHi. Soon you will learn to trust your instincts. Then you will be invincible.



You should move out and not return their phone calls. When they finally get in touch with you simply tell them you don't need the unsupportive negativity. That will get them right the [censored] in line.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-08-2005, 07:24 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Look Mom/Dad I won 12K

keep trying to overwhelm them with evidence that it's not simply degenerate gambling. any type of gambling does have a very negative connotation with alot of people, and it's not unusual that this worries your parents. I've convinced my parents that poker is more then just gambling, my father (a shrink) is cool with it, my mother is convinced that A:it's going to spiral out of control B: i'm victimizing people. i'm not worried about A, and i've come to term with B. (Alot of professions involve screwing people out of their money, atleast in poker we're up front about it. I'm a 22 year old college student as well. I like to travel alot. After highschool, my parents stopped paying for my frequent traveling. I upped my poker playing, essentially to pay for my frequent traveling. I only told my parents about the extent of my poker earnings earlier this year after my mother asked me if i was "selling dope" because i'd gone on a couple 10 day vacations to california and costa rica. While there is no reason to expect your parents to support your poker playing, you should not feel guilty, even in the absence of their approval. Keep assuring them you plan on getting a "real job" after school, and let the proverbial chips fall where they may.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-08-2005, 07:34 AM
lastchance lastchance is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 766
Default Re: Look Mom/Dad I won 12K

Well, hey, at least you're not selling dope. ^^
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-08-2005, 09:38 AM
revots33 revots33 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 28
Default Re: Look Mom/Dad I won 12K

You need to accept that playing poker may never win your parent's approval. But that's OK, since you're actually playing for your own profit and satisfaction, not theirs. In the future save your good news for your friends (and for us on 2+2), who will actually be happy for you. I know it sucks that your parents can't share your happiness over a nice win but sadly that's how it is.

I'm sure many players have parents who think their kids are gambling their money away on poker. These parents are often the same people who spend lots of money on the daily numbers, getting 500-1 on a 1000-1 shot. They lump all gambling together and obviously don't know anything about odds or EV.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-10-2005, 05:00 AM
ThaHero ThaHero is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Los Angeles and .25/.50 on PS
Posts: 199
Default Re: Look Mom/Dad I won 12K

[ QUOTE ]
I'm sure many players have parents who think their kids are gambling their money away on poker. These parents are often the same people who spend lots of money on the daily numbers, getting 500-1 on a 1000-1 shot. They lump all gambling together and obviously don't know anything about odds or EV.

[/ QUOTE ]

This describes my mom very well. She tells me that I should just play the California Lottery instead of playing poker. That I'm basically doing the same thing. I try to explain odds and EV to her, but she doesn't understand. She doesn't mind gambling so much. She plays the slots herself, although not as much as she used to. But she doesn't seem to understand why I can win at poker in the long run, since it's gambling.

I think the OP got great advice in this thread, so nothing to add there, but I wanted to touch on this.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-11-2005, 08:58 PM
ddubois ddubois is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 97
Default Re: Look Mom/Dad I won 12K

[ QUOTE ]
But she doesn't seem to understand why I can win at poker in the long run, since it's gambling.

[/ QUOTE ]
Tell her you'll play a game with her. You'll roll a die, and give her a dollar every time it lands on 4, 5, or 6; and she'll give you a dollar every time it lands a 1. Play ten times. Ask her if she would like to keep playing.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-12-2005, 06:35 AM
ThaHero ThaHero is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Los Angeles and .25/.50 on PS
Posts: 199
Default Re: Look Mom/Dad I won 12K

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
But she doesn't seem to understand why I can win at poker in the long run, since it's gambling.

[/ QUOTE ]
Tell her you'll play a game with her. You'll roll a die, and give her a dollar every time it lands on 4, 5, or 6; and she'll give you a dollar every time it lands a 1. Play ten times. Ask her if she would like to keep playing.

[/ QUOTE ]

Great idea. I'm actually gonna do this! Hope I have enough dollars lol.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-08-2005, 11:09 AM
cadillac1234 cadillac1234 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 330
Default Re: Look Mom/Dad I won 12K

Be glad you didn't have to tell them you lost $12K and now need money for the rent...
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-08-2005, 03:06 PM
AceHiStation AceHiStation is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Domating coinflips
Posts: 249
Default Re: Look Mom/Dad I won 12K

Also, I didn't really qualify. I bought-in for the full $150+12 but I guess I wanted to ease them into the fact that throwing $162 at a tournament isn't a big deal.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.