NYC poker raid?

[legalbeagle3282]

So much for me making my first ever foray into one of these clubs tonight...

[Derek in NYC]

No kidding. Best place in the city for limit games, but dirtbags a plenty.

[jba]

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I was playing at 14th st. They searched us, took our photographs, and checked our ID. One player who didn't have ID got arrested. About 20 employees got arrested.

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anybody have any weed on them?

[burningyen]

One of my sources tells me that in addition to 14 and 72, AP and AICC got raided as well.

[jnalpak]

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One of my sources tells me that in addition to 14 and 72, AP and AICC got raided as well.

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so it starts...

can this be reconfirmed that others got hit too?

[junkanoo]

Someone on 72's management once told me that since they record everyone's buy-in for the night, they would later refund everyone their buy-ins in case of a raid.

[giantsrule]

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Technically the police can hold you for 24 hours regardless of whether are not you have an ID. My assumption is that IDs were checked so that the police could check whether there were outstanding warrants against any of them and to make sure they were not people that were otherwise known to be employees or owners of the club... if someone didn't have an ID it was possible that they were trying to hide their identity, so the police could take them in and check them out... my assumption is that the player without ID was released quickly (assuming he wasn't a wanted criminal).

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The 24 hour thing is that if arrested you are supposed to be brought before a judge within 24 hours. They probably checked for outstanding warrants and for names of anyone they already thought was running the club. Those without ID were probably fingerprinted and then released as long as they didn't have a warrant.

[giantsrule]

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It's illegal not to carry ID.

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No it's not.

[giantsrule]

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I am not an attorney, however this is the only section that pertains to players : ( another link)

S 240.35 Loitering.

A person is guilty of loitering when he:
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2. Loiters or remains in a public place for the purpose of gambling
with cards, dice or other gambling paraphernalia;
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Loitering is a violation

[[Substantial doubt about the constitutionality of Sec. 240.35(2) was expressed in People v. Melton, 578 N.Y.S.2d 377, 152 Misc.2d 649 (N.Y.Sup., 1991) on the basis that mere gambling as a player is not a crime in New York, and thus the attempt to criminalize the gathering for the purpose of gambling is improper. To the same effect, see also People v. Davidson, 696 N.Y.S.2d 640 (N.Y.Sup., 1999)]]


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Davidson was reversed on appeal with the appellate court ruling that the statute was constitutional. People v. Davidson, 291 A.D.2d 810 (4th Dept. 2002).
But fortunately they released the players without charges which seems to be the only bit of good news in all this.

[Luv2DriveTT]

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One of my sources tells me that in addition to 14 and 72, AP and AICC got raided as well.

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Please don't read into this, but as I was leaving Aquarium on Tuesday 7 police cars pulled up near to their front door. The lights were on, no sirens. I didn't think anything of it at the time and kept walking. Does anyone know if they were affected? The room where the "home game" was held was not involved.

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