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11-06-2005, 04:42 PM
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Re: selling PT databases?
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I likely have run hot this year. Here's hoping for half my expectation next year. KKF is selling a 200k DB for 100% of his hourly rate, is that also overpriced then? You inquired privately about it and publicly posted the incorrect pricing pete. the price is 33% of the hourly rate for the DB. Yes there are sample size issues. also I dont think i ever said "my winrate" I said the winrate for the DB, but the start of this thread had a different thrust anyways and it took a turn I wasnt hoping for. how would you go about pricing something like this? what variables would increase or decrease the price? What makes it a valuable teaching tool? [/ QUOTE ] My apologies for posting the incorrect pricing percentage. I contacted you earlier because any learning tool that I could get my hands on would be of benefit to me. I have no doubts about your skill level nor do I think the DB is overpriced as I have no problems with the money. My issue is the sample size. So you had a few great months, what about the rest of the year? A valuable learning tool to me would be a more accurate database where you maintain this WR for many more hands. To me it looks like you took a snapshot of the last 100K hands where you did well and decided hmmm...I won $1k/100 during that 100K hands so my DB is worth 33%. I do not know what KKF's WR is nor do I care. Nonetheless his DB is at least twice the size of yours and to me that indicates a more accurate picture. As it is right now I fail to see the value in it, sorry. I don't know what your intentions are for posting this thread but if you're serious about coaching maybe what Dane S said earlier had some merit. A video with hud stats on players would probably be a better idea. 
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#2
11-06-2005, 04:47 PM
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Re: selling PT databases?
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[ QUOTE ] I likely have run hot this year. Here's hoping for half my expectation next year. KKF is selling a 200k DB for 100% of his hourly rate, is that also overpriced then? You inquired privately about it and publicly posted the incorrect pricing pete. the price is 33% of the hourly rate for the DB. Yes there are sample size issues. also I dont think i ever said "my winrate" I said the winrate for the DB, but the start of this thread had a different thrust anyways and it took a turn I wasnt hoping for. how would you go about pricing something like this? what variables would increase or decrease the price? What makes it a valuable teaching tool? [/ QUOTE ] My apologies for posting the incorrect pricing percentage. I contacted you earlier because any learning tool that I could get my hands on would be of benefit to me. I have no doubts about your skill level nor do I think the DB is overpriced as I have no problems with the money. My issue is the sample size. So you had a few great months, what about the rest of the year? A valuable learning tool to me would be a more accurate database where you maintain this WR for many more hands. To me it looks like you took a snapshot of the last 100K hands where you did well and decided hmmm...I won $1k/100 during that 100K hands so my DB is worth 33%. I do not know what KKF's WR is nor do I care. Nonetheless his DB is at least twice the size of yours and to me that indicates a more accurate picture. As it is right now I fail to see the value in it, sorry. I don't know what your intentions are for posting this thread but if you're serious about coaching maybe what Dane S said earlier had some merit. A video with hud stats on players would probably be a better idea. [/ QUOTE ] Stox doesn't use a HUD for the players he plays with on a regular basis. Gametime is all thats available. Barron
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11-06-2005, 04:53 PM
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Re: selling PT databases?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I likely have run hot this year. Here's hoping for half my expectation next year. KKF is selling a 200k DB for 100% of his hourly rate, is that also overpriced then? You inquired privately about it and publicly posted the incorrect pricing pete. the price is 33% of the hourly rate for the DB. Yes there are sample size issues. also I dont think i ever said "my winrate" I said the winrate for the DB, but the start of this thread had a different thrust anyways and it took a turn I wasnt hoping for. how would you go about pricing something like this? what variables would increase or decrease the price? What makes it a valuable teaching tool? [/ QUOTE ] My apologies for posting the incorrect pricing percentage. I contacted you earlier because any learning tool that I could get my hands on would be of benefit to me. I have no doubts about your skill level nor do I think the DB is overpriced as I have no problems with the money. My issue is the sample size. So you had a few great months, what about the rest of the year? A valuable learning tool to me would be a more accurate database where you maintain this WR for many more hands. To me it looks like you took a snapshot of the last 100K hands where you did well and decided hmmm...I won $1k/100 during that 100K hands so my DB is worth 33%. I do not know what KKF's WR is nor do I care. Nonetheless his DB is at least twice the size of yours and to me that indicates a more accurate picture. As it is right now I fail to see the value in it, sorry. I don't know what your intentions are for posting this thread but if you're serious about coaching maybe what Dane S said earlier had some merit. A video with hud stats on players would probably be a better idea. [/ QUOTE ] Stox doesn't use a HUD for the players he plays with on a regular basis. Gametime is all thats available. Barron [/ QUOTE ] I see, thank you. Then like I said earlier, a larger sample size DB is probably a good idea.
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11-06-2005, 05:01 PM
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Re: selling PT databases?
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As it is right now I fail to see the value in it, sorry. I don't know what your intentions are for posting this thread but if you're serious about coaching maybe what Dane S said earlier had some merit. A video with hud stats on players would probably be a better idea. [/ QUOTE ] This isn't some gigantic money making scheme. If you are interested in these limits and more specifically some of the players, it's probably worth it. I agree this thread sucks, but only because of the responses.
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#5
11-06-2005, 05:27 PM
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I agree this thread sucks, but only because of the responses. [/ QUOTE ] Thank you for you input. It has made this thread so much better. Seriously, why are there so many arrogant jerks who come on the mid/high forums who add no value to any the threads?
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#7
11-07-2005, 01:38 PM
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Re: selling PT databases?
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If you're selling your db, how is a few months worth of HHs be an accurate guage of your WR? No doubt stox is one of the best players out there [/ QUOTE ] If you want to learn sth you dont need a sample which give accurate picture of WR , all you need is a sample that give you accurate picture of strategies used by our Hero. I think 100k hands is more than enough for the rest of your life (you wont revise all these hands anyway). Btw if I played limit I would be thrilled to buy DB of a guy who is "one of the best players out there" but I dont. Probably because I cant respect my opponents, or whatever... Best wishes
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11-06-2005, 07:01 PM
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what a joke
Dont get me wrong Stox is a great guy and I dont personally have anything problem with him posting this. But you delete one of JV's threads, even though he has been posting here before you knew how to spell poker, and leave this which, no offense Stox, is basically just advanced spam. If this post were made by Joe Blow it would have been gone two days ago. Just because you like to talk strategy with a guy, I dont think it should give you a reason to keep a thread like this around when you are deleleting and locking others that are more less harmless.
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11-06-2005, 07:16 PM
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Re: what a joke
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Dont get me wrong Stox is a great guy and I dont personally have anything problem with him posting this. But you delete one of JV's threads, even though he has been posting here before you knew how to spell poker, and leave this which, no offense Stox, is basically just advanced spam. If this post were made by Joe Blow it would have been gone two days ago. Just because you like to talk strategy with a guy, I dont think it should give you a reason to keep a thread like this around when you are deleleting and locking others that are more less harmless. [/ QUOTE ] I really don't think the point of this thread was stox trying to sell his PT database. It turned into that, and now this thread is basically horrible save for the Erik1234 post. Nevertheless, there are a few hand posts on the first page of mid/hi that would make better candidates for deletion IMHO. Also, I'm pretty sure the JV thread would have gotten unlocked had the Prock thread not emerged.
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#10
11-06-2005, 07:29 PM
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Re: what a joke
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I really don't think the point of this thread was stox trying to sell his PT database. [/ QUOTE ] As the great Ron Burgandy once said, agree to disagree.
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