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To be sure, "states' rights" is something that most people hear in high school and parrot the rest of their lives in the hopes of sounding educated.
Such a complex event as the War of Northern Aggression can't be singled down to a single factor like "slavery" or "states' rights," with the possible exception of "economics." |
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why don't you guys just lay out the issue right now.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Also, I don't see how the confederate flag represents slavery. The civil war was about states' rights, not slavery. Slavery was a side issue. [/ QUOTE ] I personally think this is BS. The claim that the war was about "states rights" is a bit of semantic munging to make the southern states sound slightly more noble than they actually were, perhaps as a means of mending fences between the two halves of the country. [/ QUOTE ] Do your personal thoughts have any basis in fact? Maybe you should read about the civil war and not rely on what you learned in 10th grade history class. [/ QUOTE ]I think you may have missed his point somewhat. [/ QUOTE ] salty- do you not like tony? i am just wondering, as i like to keep up on the comings and goings of OOT. i have already learned one poster has an IQ of 156 today. |
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whats the problem with the flag then? [/ QUOTE ] I don't have a problem with it. I do think it has A LOT to do with racism. For those that have never been in the south it's hard to explain. But I don't have a problem with it and I don't have a problem with swastikas. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Also, I don't see how the confederate flag represents slavery. The civil war was about states' rights, not slavery. Slavery was a side issue. [/ QUOTE ] I personally think this is BS. The claim that the war was about "states rights" is a bit of semantic munging to make the southern states sound slightly more noble than they actually were, perhaps as a means of mending fences between the two halves of the country. [/ QUOTE ] Do your personal thoughts have any basis in fact? Maybe you should read about the civil war and not rely on what you learned in 10th grade history class. [/ QUOTE ]I think you may have missed his point somewhat. [/ QUOTE ] What is the point then? |
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Edit to note that I am VERY against banning people for rebel flags, swastikas, ghost bumping, stupid polls and pretty much all the [censored] people get banned for each day. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] |
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why don't you guys just lay out the issue right now. [/ QUOTE ] This topic first came up for discussion in the mod forum. I'm not going to replicate a 100 post thread for lots of reasons, not the least of which is I don't need to. Mat mentioned moving it to a public forum and wacki jumped on the idea by posting it here. I have no idea why he did that. If you want someone to fill in the holes, ask him, not me. |
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why isnt the mod forum transparent to everyone? seems like it should be. [/ QUOTE ] |
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To be sure, "states' rights" is something that most people hear in high school and parrot the rest of their lives in the hopes of sounding educated. Such a complex event as the War of Northern Aggression can't be singled down to a single factor like "slavery" or "states' rights," with the possible exception of "economics." [/ QUOTE ] I consider states' rights a very broad topic. Though you are correct that the broader issue is economics. |
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DER FUHRER
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